Nicolas Otamendi - 2016/17 performances

[shemnel]

there's no point hiding the fact that last season he got loads wrong while also having some top games.

This season he's started really well.

Why are people arguing about one of our players improving? you lot are odd :)

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think it is impossible to overestimate quite how bad Pellegrini was for most, if not all of our defensive players. In the 14/15 season he even managed to make Vinnie look an absolute chump most of the time so it's not surprising that last year, Otamendi coming into a new league and playing under him looked really poor at times. I feel a bit sorry for Mangala, comes in, plays under that berk for two years and then as soon as someone comes in who has a clue, he's gone.

Well the general theme amongst some on here was 'that wasn't Otamendi's fault' & it seemed Pellegrini agreed, as he was making the same mistakes at the end of the season as he was at the start, with no obvious plan of changing it.

Pep turns up "fucking pack it in" & for the most part that's exactly what he's done & looks twice the player. He also looks every bit as good as Stones on the ball now, imo. In fact he's been just as creative, but less risky.

 

[Neville Kneville]

there's no point hiding the fact that last season he got loads wrong while also having some top games.

This season he's started really well.

Why are people arguing about one of our players improving? you lot are odd :)

Because some, instead of saying 'wow he's really improved' go 'see, he was great last season after all'.

 

[Airbags Optional]

Only thing I don't like about him is his play acting. Hate seeing our players react like they have been shot, on Saturday at the end scum were launching it and he intercepted, got fouled and went down like Platoon, we did not get a free kick and as soon as he realised he jumped up. Could have cost us as he was out of position on the deck. Other than that, great heart, good passer and good in the air. Glad we have him

 

[Delphacito]

No because I didn't say Otamendi is complete fucking shite I said he 'often' was, last season. Which is true. And people trying to rewrite it, as if folks were wrong to mention it, are taking the piss.

Otamendi has played more genuine top quality games for City this season already, than he did in the whole of last season.

He was being arse kissed by fanboys for often routine defending, but also letting players run off him at set pieces for free headers, chucking himself over trying to win free kicks instead of doing his job, rushing out of position leaving gaps behind him for oppo to run into, being bitched in the air by journeyman cfs, outpaced, outhought, & sitiing on his arse when he should be holding players up. The shiteness at times of our other top players like Aguero, Yaya or Silva didn't harm him, it helped him stay under the radar.

He was lauded for any decent games he played, & praised heavily for average ones whilst his constant stream of mistakes were put down to Pellegrini telling him to do stuff or Fernandinho or Yaya not doing his job for him. He was all over the place.

He isn't allowed to be, anymore. If he goes back to that level, he's out the door. So far, he's looked like a real top cb apart from 20 mins v West Ham, where he reverted to last season. On Saturday, he was heroic. Hopefully that will be his futute standard & then he will become one of the best around. His standard last season, was Johnny Evans with a beard.

Have a look at this :

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...es/defensive_errors/errors_leading_to_goal#90

That's how he did compared to other 'top' PL defenders.

You see a player that was 'often' shite, I see a mainstay of a CB during our whole season that managed to perform even though he had to change partners almost every game (which included Demichelis).

Jonny Evans with a beard? Haha, let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Have a look at this :

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...es/defensive_errors/errors_leading_to_goal#90

That's how he did compared to other 'top' PL defenders.

You see a player that was 'often' shite, I see a mainstay of a CB during our whole season that managed to perform even though he had to change partners almost every game (which included Demichelis).

Let's just agree to disagree.

Some fuckers idea of what they decide is a defensive error leading to a goal & some fucker's idea that every fuck up you get away with that the striker misses, means you are doing a great job, does not wash with me, at all, nor most of the people on here when we get told how great Ferguson's defence with John OShea, or Phil Jones, or Evans, or Smalling at cb was, when they got away with it & kept some clean sheets. We laughed, because we knew there was more to it.

 

[BlueCityfan]

For all the talk of Stones build-up skills. Otamendi has been even better than him at that IMO. That's how good he is.

 

[Delphacito]

Some fuckers idea of what they decide is a defensive error leading to a goal & some fucker's idea that every fuck up you get away with that the striker misses, means you are doing a great job, does not wash with me, at all, nor most of the people on here when we get told how great Ferguson's defence with John OShea, or Phil Jones, or Evans, or Smalling at cb was, when they got away with it & kept some clean sheets. We laughed, because we knew there was more to it.

I'm not saying he's Fabio Cannavaro, but he wasn't Jonny Evans either. You sound like you have some personal vendetta against him so I don't think I can convince you otherwise. He did went to the ground a lot and maybe that's very despicable to you which leads to your hatred towards him last season, I might understand that. Either way let's just agree to disagree.

 

[without a dream]

A hell of a defender when he's not diving around.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I'm not saying he's Fabio Cannavaro, but he wasn't Jonny Evans either. You sound like you have some personal vendetta against him so I don't think I can convince you otherwise. He did went to the ground a lot and maybe that's very despicable to you which leads to your hatred towards him last season, I might understand that. Either way let's just agree to disagree.

If I had a personal vendetta against him, I wouldn't be saying he has been great all this season would I ? I complimented him last season when he did well.

This season, he looks like he is becoming a top defender, possibly one of the best. Had he really been that when we first went in for him, we wouldn't have been able to sit around for half the summer wondering about buying him for that price especially as other teams had looked at him months earlier & we had the manager & d.o.f. both openly watching him at the Copa. Still nobody came in.

Then we signed him. Nobody would have wanted him for what we paid, if we'd made him available in May.

If you put him on the market at the price we paid now, half the top clubs in europe would be interested. Because last year he was nothing & this season he has been something.