pudge said:What's an own goal? I highly doubt that the players went to the papers and said they didn't hear or see anything before the review by the club, or that they would stick up for him at all. And Zab's reaction says it all for me, if given the chance he'll call Tevez out no problem imo
Rushton121 said:Carlos Tevez claimed he was not feeling mentally right to enter the pitch for Manchester City after refusing to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich.
“I just was not feeling very good mentally to enter the pitch so I put my opinion to Mancini,” he said through an interpreter having been asked about what took place in the dugout.
bzekosilva said:Manchester City have been plunged into a new crisis after it emerged none of the substitutes on the bench in Munich actually heard Carlos Tevez refuse to play.
The news will throw the club into fresh turmoil, because it contradicts allegations made against the striker by boss Roberto Mancini.
And it backs up claims made by the Argentinian that he told Mancini he was ready to play.
The news will cast doubt on City's ability to discipline Tevez without facing legal claims from the player and his adviser, Kia Joorabchian.
City are expected to take evidence from Costel Pantillimon, Pablo Zabaleta, Joleon Lescott, James Milner, Aleksandar Kolarov - the other subs who were sitting alongside Tevez at the Allianz Arena - as well as Edin Dzeko, who had been replaced by Nigel De Jong, shortly before the incident.
[b]They are all believed to accept that Tevez said he had already warmed up and did not need to do so again.[/b]
But none of them will confirm they heard him say he would not go on to replace Samir Nasri - which is the accusation levelled at him by Mancini.
.......right okay so thats why Zaba reacted the way he did a calm mild mannered soul....
intheknow! said:bzekosilva said:Manchester City have been plunged into a new crisis after it emerged none of the substitutes on the bench in Munich actually heard Carlos Tevez refuse to play.
The news will throw the club into fresh turmoil, because it contradicts allegations made against the striker by boss Roberto Mancini.
And it backs up claims made by the Argentinian that he told Mancini he was ready to play.
The news will cast doubt on City's ability to discipline Tevez without facing legal claims from the player and his adviser, Kia Joorabchian.
City are expected to take evidence from Costel Pantillimon, Pablo Zabaleta, Joleon Lescott, James Milner, Aleksandar Kolarov - the other subs who were sitting alongside Tevez at the Allianz Arena - as well as Edin Dzeko, who had been replaced by Nigel De Jong, shortly before the incident.
[b]They are all believed to accept that Tevez said he had already warmed up and did not need to do so again.[/b]
But none of them will confirm they heard him say he would not go on to replace Samir Nasri - which is the accusation levelled at him by Mancini.
.......right okay so thats why Zaba reacted the way he did a calm mild mannered soul....
This is what Tevez has said all along, that he didn't refuse to play but that he refused to warm up for a second time. And wanted to go on and play without warming up again.
Mancini is in deep sh1t if this is true. Not only because of the way Tevez has been demonised with everyone from Redknapp to Johan Cruyff spouting their opinion, but this will cause problems within the squad. Players will not like the way Tevez has been treated if Mancini got the wrong end of the stick and blew it all out of proportion & imagine how Mancini is going to feel knowing NOT ONE player has backed him up??
I have been honest on here all along, I don't think Mancini is the right man to manage the unique situation we have at City. I've felt this for a while so it's no knee-jerk, I'm consistent!!
Rushton121 said:Carlos Tevez claimed he was not feeling mentally right to enter the pitch for Manchester City after refusing to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich.
“I just was not feeling very good mentally to enter the pitch so I put my opinion to Mancini,” he said through an interpreter having been asked about what took place in the dugout.
edgecroft said:From the Mirror, from yesterday, direct quote from Zabs:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Carlos-Tevez-s-refusal-to-come-on-as-a-sub-could-wreck-Manchester-City-s-season-says-Nigel-de-Jong-article805513.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ca ... 05513.html</a>
Zabaleta contradicated Tevez's statement, released on Wednesday morning, in which the striker insisted he had not refused to play and that there had merely been a misunderstanding between himself and Mancini.
"Carlos just didn't want to play," said Zabaleta, who, despite his friendship with Tevez, said players had a duty to respect Mancini's decisions as their manager, even if they did not agree with them.
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The article that this thread is based is just wrong, and so is anybody who believes it.