North Stand Construction Discussion

[Coatigan]

What's the likelihood of the landscaping around the stadium (section 5) actually happening? Is the removal of the crest likely a sign of things to come in terms of the project scope being cut back as we get nearer to handover?

Don't think the two are related imo. The crest removal will be for reasons other than cut backs, I would imagine.

The landscaping improvement is a planning condition they will need to fulfill, so really it Should happen.

 

[Coatigan]

Updated hotel entrance with a canopy added, and a bit more of an update on the facade fins, with the changes following the mock-up reviews etc.

 

[Coatigan]

I think getting rid of that crest is a real shame.
If City “branding” was plastered across the area around co op on the other side of Joe mercer way, then maybe.

But this is external face of City’s stadium and no one visiting that area would be unaware of that fact, given it’s fucking massive and one of the most famous sporting venues in the world. I can’t for the life of me see much commercial risk in having the crest there - on the contrary the club should feel comfortable in doing so.

Agree, plus we have one already above the main entrance on the side, so not sure why it would be an issue here too.

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

Is it a “virtual crest” which has been removed from drawings or an actual crest that’s been physically removed?

 

[Coatigan]

Is it a “virtual crest” which has been removed from drawings or an actual crest that’s been physically removed?

Virtual, i.e the approved proposal to have it has changed to no longer have it. It hasn't physically been installed, nor removed.

 

[Coatigan]

They don't look temporary to me either.

Agree, but the effect is temporary.

The issue is the geometry meeting. The panels are perpendicular to the purlins, which incrementally rotate ever so slightly. But are interrupted by the beams so you never see them clash. At the end panels, they havent been trimmed yet, so you are seeing the two angles meet. Once that's cut back and interrupted by the beam (you can alreadynsee this on the weat to a point), it will look right.

As for the very outside ends, not sure tbh, will wait and see. I imagine they'll be trimmed and covered with a capping piece and look neat.

The kalzip sheets turning 90 degrees tho, be surprised if that is temporary. They seem to be sorting the outer edges out so that may well stay like that. Might bother some people's ocd, but whem finished it should still be neat hopefully.

Edit. The south stand roof kalzip changes orientation at the same point. Although it is technically 'temporary'.

 

[Centurions]

Agree, but the effect is temporary.

The issue is the geometry meeting. The panels are perpendicular to the purlins, which incrementally rotate ever so slightly. But are interrupted by the beams so you never see them clash. At the end panels, they havent been trimmed yet, so you are seeing the two angles meet. Once that's cut back and interrupted by the beam (you can alreadynsee this on the weat to a point), it will look right.

As for the very outside ends, not sure tbh, will wait and see. I imagine they'll be trimmed and covered with a capping piece and look neat.

The kalzip sheets turning 90 degrees tho, be surprised if that is temporary. They seem to be sorting the outer edges out so that may well stay like that. Might bother some people's ocd, but whem finished it should still be neat hopefully.

Edit. The south stand roof kalzip changes orientation at the same point. Although it is technically 'temporary'.

I've no doubt about the Kalzip, that's purely because of the increased slope on the roof at both ends. For drainage purposes it makes sense for sure.

 

[LeroyChickenSane]

I think getting rid of that crest is a real shame.
If City “branding” was plastered across the area around co op on the other side of Joe mercer way, then maybe.

But this is external face of City’s stadium and no one visiting that area would be unaware of that fact, given it’s fucking massive and one of the most famous sporting venues in the world. I can’t for the life of me see much commercial risk in having the crest there - on the contrary the club should feel comfortable in doing so.

Great Post. Gutted about this. It's only a sign, but it gives a sense of dominance and stature when walking to the stadium from that side IMO. Little details.

Are we still allowed blue lights on top or blue ketchup on derby day? They'll have to paint the blue paint that covers Joe Mercer way too for those with a real pettiness

 

[HelloCity]

Probably worth noting that on a match day the big screens at the end of each wing will be full of City content and branding.

 

[Coatigan]

Great Post. Gutted about this. It's only a sign, but it gives a sense of dominance and stature when walking to the stadium from that side IMO. Little details.

Are we still allowed blue lights on top or blue ketchup on derby day? They'll have to paint the blue paint that covers Joe Mercer way too for those with a real pettiness

Fyi the reason noted for the removal of the crest is to 'prevent impacting the views from the sky bar and hospitality suite'.

Rather than the square or approach feeling neutral.

Not sure I buy it, the bottom floor of that piece is just a corridot to the suites looking onto the pitch. The top part is the sky bar, but the crest is in the middle bay of 5, and even then 'covers' about 15-20% of the bay.

 

[Coatigan]

Probably worth noting that on a match day the big screens at the end of each wing will be full of City content and branding.

Sure. I still liked the badge there as a permanent part of the building.

 

[eyalluvitt]

187.5m per stand in simple terms We get an extension, 401 room hotel, a commercial building and covered square for 1.6 times more Don’t think we have done too bad

& Everton’s ground was literally built on water, a huge floating erection project

 

[Coatigan]

Probably worth noting that on a match day the big screens at the end of each wing will be full of City content and branding.

Looks naked doesn't it!




Like they ordered the stand off DHgate!

 

[mcfcphil]

Looks naked doesn't it!

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Like they ordered the stand off DHgate!

That really does make me sad.

The City badge sitting above that development would have looked fantastic and something for us all to be proud of.

Rather than naked, I’d say castrated.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Looks naked doesn't it!

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Like they ordered the stand off DHgate!

Yes!

Looks totally generic!

The central location of the crest sets the stage and provides some substance to the blank slate.

That being said, I have no idea what will be on the screens when it’s not a match day. Will it be a crest or turned off, or something else?

 

[jrb]

Looks naked doesn't it!

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Like they ordered the stand off DHgate!

I'm assuming they want an uninterrupted view of redeveloped Joe Mercer Way for City fans sitting and standing at the windows overlooking the fan zone roof and Joe Mercer Way. I stand corrected on that?

 

[Coatigan]

I'm assuming they want an uninterrupted view of redeveloped Joe Mercer Way for City fans sitting and standing at the windows overlooking the fan zone roof and Joe Mercer Way. I stand corrected on that?

Yeah I said similar in the previous post, that is the reason cited.

I'm not really buying it, but who knows.

 

[jrb]

Yeah I said similar in the previous post, that is the reason cited.

I'm not really buying it, but who knows.

Sorry mate. I didn't scroll that far back.

 

[Coatigan]

Yes!

Looks totally generic!

The central location of the crest sets the stage and provides some substance to the blank slate.

That being said, I have no idea what will be on the screens when it’s not a match day. Will it be a crest or turned off, or something else?

One screen will show energetic gospel choirs, the other tampon and menstrual pad adverts.

One for the happy clappers, one for the fanny flappers, something for everyone!

 

[bluemc]

I think getting rid of that crest is a real shame.
If City “branding” was plastered across the area around co op on the other side of Joe mercer way, then maybe.

But this is external face of City’s stadium and no one visiting that area would be unaware of that fact, given it’s fucking massive and one of the most famous sporting venues in the world. I can’t for the life of me see much commercial risk in having the crest there - on the contrary the club should feel comfortable in doing so.

Agreed, it is a shame. It's the centre piece of the whole development and complex, when you consider it services both the stadium and arena. City branding should be loud & proud.

I don't care if Darragh the Liverpool fan from County Down flies over to watch Westlife at the Co-Op and gets upset because he sees a massive (see what I did there) City badge before he enters the arena.