Extra trams alone aren't the answer, they can't get through the Piccadilly bottleneck quick enough and would cause lack of service elsewhere on the network. One or two maybe but more than that is a non-starter.It's weird that though, isn't it? We know Abu Dhabi and MCC are all over each other with the Manchester Life development, and the Arena is going to bring in hundreds of millions a year to the City.
Why would MCC not be all for the idea of collaborating on transport links?
The buses would be something like a split paid for by who uses them the most so I’d say 20 percent city 30 percent co op arena and 50 percent mcc who would use the buses in conjunction with gmpt Mon to Friday to replace a lot of the current dirty diesel stock. Thus also solving storage issues. Finding drivers might be a bit tougher true but nothing insurmountable if we pay a good rate. Road closure wise I’m only talking the odd road and junction, mostly intelligent traffic lights would help speed away the buses. Bus is the only quick solution here, trainsolution would take years and metrolink aren’t interested.I think this is a nice idea in theory, but in practice, it's very unrealistic.
Firstly, who would pay for the buses? Where would they store them when they aren't being used? Which roads would they close (when there are concerts on would there be nightly closures all year round)? How much would it cost to use? Where would they find staff who were happy with this infrequent work when there's a labour shortage already.
Extra trams alone aren't the answer, they can't get through the Piccadilly bottleneck quick enough and would cause lack of service elsewhere on the network. One or two maybe but more than that is a non-starter.
It’s hard to imagine this as an insurmountable issue tbh. Difficult, perhaps.There must be an answer, and if I was in local government and got enquiries about improving transport from people with a trillion dollar investment fund and a known desire to invest around the world, and a track record of doing it locally, I wouldn’t be ignoring their messages.
Once found myself next to Corradi on the A56 in Sale after a game. Getting away from the match must have been the fastest he moved whilst with us.I can tell you the players are shit, showered and changed and sat in the same traffic as the rest of us before many others are back on a tram.
Cars are parked fifty yards away so they make a sharp exit.
They want support for a strategy a portion of which is flawed. I want them to think again about it not cancel it. That’s what consultation periods are for.So not enough buses and you want to cancel a 300 million plus development ? You couldn't make it up...
is everyone putting their comments into the club about the plans?There is a questionnaire on the article that announced the plans.
I have just finished my comments which centred almost entirely on the transport strategy. They ask you at the end of the questionnaire if you support the plans. I told them I couldn’t until they rethink transport. The club has the clout and the wealth to make things far better for matchgoing fans And should use this development as an opportunity.
See my response to @pride in battle
I did mine and made comments on transport,but I don't think they have the clout to make the difference you're suggesting. The transport can only be fixed by making the trams better, which will have a small impact, otherwise I don't really know what they can do, the road layout and number of cars leaving at the same time will always be an issue.is everyone putting their comments into the club about the plans?There is a questionnaire on the article that announced the plans.
I have just finished my comments which centred almost entirely on the transport strategy. They ask you at the end of the questionnaire if you support the plans. I told them I couldn’t until they rethink transport. The club has the clout and the wealth to make things far better for matchgoing fans And should use this development as an opportunity.
The answer is to build more rapid transit infrastructure @ £100M per mile (cost based on Trafford Centre route). The cheapest route I can see is linking the Oldham tram line at Asda to the Rochdale tram line at Monsall, 1.5 miles? With the complicated junctions and stations the cost is likely to be about £300M now, maybe more. It would take some time to recoup that.There must be an answer, and if I was in local government and got enquiries about improving transport from people with a trillion dollar investment fund and a known desire to invest around the world, and a track record of doing it locally, I wouldn’t be ignoring their messages.