No it’s non of that, 93:20 , for a start is almost all S/c holders, with a handful of match day ticket sales, you get a padded seat and a programme.
You get admittance to a bar area where the food is pies , burgers, etc. all priced to buy at roughly the same price as the concourses.
The S/C is about £500 more than the same ordinary level 2 block.
As I say slightly more expensive again mainly S/C with a couple more perks.
You still haven’t explained the difference between a GA that moves from a block in the front middle block of East Stand 3 and a GA that sits in 93:20 both moving to a seat / safe standing seat with similar perks to 93:20, that is still a GA seats but with access to a separate bar area.Look!
I’ve got absolutely nothing against City fans who want do hospitality. If they want to do that good for them. I’ve done it on a few occasions myself and I‘ve enjoyed the experience, bar the lack of atmosphere.(you don’t go there for the atmosphere)
But to propose shoehorning a 648 seater hospitality section at the front of NSL2 is a kick in the tenth for the GA’s who have wanted and campaigned on here, across other City social media websites, and via fans groups for a proper home end filled the GA’s who can support the team.
Just to clarify again. I don’t have a problem with the suites at the back of L2, or the L3 restaurant and bar seats.
I agree with all of that - my point is this…While I applaud your fervor, I think you’re ignoring the realities of 2023, because this is not 1978, where you ran down to the wall and grabbed a Bovril off the lad walking around the cinder track at Maine Road.
The REVENUES the club makes are what drive the PRODUCT you see on the field, because FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY demands an accounting of both.
Yes, there are 25-30,000 HARD CORE City supporters who bleed Blue and who show up come rain or shine, Champions League or York Away. Many of them like a pie and pint, but many of them also get that elsewhere on the way to the ground. They have their Match Day rituals, as we all do, and it doesn’t include paying what they consider daft prices for anything, let alone beer and pies inside the ground.
However, with a 60,000 seat stadium, you are now opening yourself up to a greater proportion of day trippers, corporate clients, and big game attendees, and the Club wants to make the entire experience one that allows them to feel they got value for money! It’s not the “pay £50 extra and get a few butties and a drink,” but the well-heeled (even if only for the day) punter who wants the entire Etihad Experience.
That might not be you, or me, but it is becoming an increasingly important REVENUE PRODUCING CUSTOMER that enables us ALL to enjoy the best FOOTBALL PRODUCT POSSIBLE, without fighting it out in court every year.
As a 50+ year fan, I certainly appreciate City’s roots as a working class club built on working class foundations. However, today City attract money by trying to be an attractive proposition to people EVERYWHERE ON EARTH, not just the 10 mile radius around the dog shit strewn ginnel between the Kippax and the Platt Lane end!
We are witnessing the best players in the world performing in a world class stadium for a world class investor who saved us from the Knacker’s Yard. Yes, they still have to be true to the likes of you and me, but if that was the extent of the outreach required, we would be watching a very different club playing very different football with very different players.
IMHO, we can’t be such working class snobs that we look down our noses at the bounty that has been provided to, and for, us without realizing the work that goes into producing it. Nor do I think the owners take our “Golden Oldies” support for granted. Rather, I think they completely understand the DNA of the club and seek only to enhance it, broaden it, and extend its reach in order to make the business proposition that drove the initial investment worthwhile.
Again, just my humble opinion, but I think they been more successful than ANY OF US EVER DREAMED, especially those of us who lived through the ignominy of the last two decades of the last century!
Onwards and upwards, I say, and they have yet to make too many mistakes in my book.
Long may it last and I hope to enjoy the fruits of THEIR £300M INVESTMENT in the club I’ve loved for over half a century…even if that means I have to occasionally see a few day trippers wearing half and half scarves who didn’t have the “pleasure” of growing up in the shit strewn, poverty stricken streets of the towns and villages that created our traditional fan base. And, as they say around here, his money is not only as green as yours, but it spends just as easily!
The Future is Blue…embrace it…ALL OF IT!
You still haven’t explained the difference between a GA that moves from a block in the front middle block of East Stand 3 and a GA that sits in 93:20 both moving to a seat / safe standing seat with similar perks to 93:20, that is still a GA seats but with access to a separate bar area.
To me they are exactly the same fans, same seat as the rest of NS 2 slightly more expensive season ticket ( about £500 / season). How is that £500 per season the difference between a fan that will join in and one that won’t?
So, how will we fill the 7000 singing section, we will need fans moving from all parts of the ground, those that sit in blocks in the side stands. They aren’t watching from hospitality sections, some 93: 20 seats are half blocks, same fans same blocks same season ticket holders except they buy their drinks in a separate bar area and pay a bit extra to do it. If they move there they’ll sing and join in, or do all 7000 moving there have to pass a test.You clearly know the difference.
We all do.
The difference is a GA who stands and sings in SSL1, in the singing section, compared to a GA who prefers to watch the match sat down from a hospitality section.
No it’s non of that, 93:20 , for a start is almost all S/c holders, with a handful of match day ticket sales, you get a padded seat and a programme.
You get admittance to a bar area where the food is pies , burgers, etc. all priced to buy at roughly the same price as the concourses.
The S/C is about £500 more than the same ordinary level 2 block.
As I say slightly more expensive again mainly S/C with a couple more perks.
So, how will we fill the 7000 singing section, we will need fans moving from all parts of the ground, those that sit in blocks in the side stands. They aren’t watching from hospitality sections, some 93: 20 seats are half blocks, same fans same blocks same season ticket holders except they buy their drinks in a separate bar area and pay a bit extra to do it. If they move there they’ll sing and join in, or do all 7000 moving there have to pass a test.
Not really the point I was making,I was arguing the point that those fans aren’t normal fans yes £500 is a lot but somebody that has £500 isn’t suddenly a fan that automatically doesn’t want to join in songs, maybe it’s somebody that quit smoking and spends the £500 on the perks he’s the same fan that maybe 2 years ago couldn’t afford the £500 and sat in a cheaper block because they spent it on fags.£500 more then an ordinary level 2 seat is a lot. Someone mentioned it’s £1450 for a season ticket in joes. If it’s the same/ similar pricing at the front of what’s meant to be a home end your pricing out thousands of fans from being able to sit there.
Younger fans in particular who make a lot of the noise. I certainly wouldn’t be able to afford that.
Keep the expensive season tickets and corporate light tickets away from the front of a home end. That’s the main point being argued here