North Stand Construction Discussion

[Citizen of Legoland]

The bar and canopy on the right when facing the back of the souvenir store have gone.

The link below takes you to the Coop Live Arena live webcam. You can follow the progress of the demolition via that. Either enlarge the picture or zoom in on your device. The picture does blur slightly.

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Canopies over Summerbees starting to be dismantled…

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

No th

No thanks we love kids fanzone

I do to mate! It was a tongue in cheek, we’re always taking grandkid’s nieces/nephews, in fact some have come along with no match ticket just to go to the fanzone. It’s a great facility and a day out in its own right

 

[Norbert D]

When is it due to be open ?

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

The South stand expansion and Coop Live Arena are a learning curve.

Not in the business, like many on here are, and who know whats involved, but construction costs have rocketed over the last few years, not to mention supply chain and trades person issues.

Looks like City want to be in complete control of the build making sure build costs don't escalate.

That aside. Will somebody finish off the snagging on the South stand. Having access to the interior of the stand via 1894 really brings home how poor the finish is.

I was told Laing O'Rourke estimated at £160m last year vs Turner & Townsend, who were cheaper, but City accepted the position.
LOR have since come in at £170m, whereas T&T estimate is £150m+. City told LOR they were going out to tender, and I think LOR walked away as they couldn't bridge the gap with cost engineering.
Don't know if this is 100% true, but seems legit given Sisk are now looking to do the build.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

IF IF IF....The Etihad had a 75000 capacity now,and a 'home' North stand would we sell it out for PL & CL games ?

 

[gbmcfc]

IF IF IF....The Etihad had a 75000 capacity now,and a 'home' North stand would we sell it out for PL & CL games ?

certain games would i assume

 

[Centurions]

Unfortunately, I have been told I will not be working on this project but a couple of colleagues are. The reports in the media are that Laing O'Rourke walked away but from what I've heard it was more of a push. The inhouse team at City sound like they know exactly what they want and will not be backed into a corner by any contractor. The consultant in me says they are hard work, but as a fan I feel they mirror what our Chairman and CEO possess. Very shrewd and meticulous.

Either way, the club will get what they want and this will take a little while longer than the timeframes that have been widely reported. Just my view, don't shoot the messenger.

I was looking for something else entirely yesterday but came across this piece from 2015 which you may find interesting (presuming you've not seen it).

Man City infrastructure chief: 'People in construction should challenge us' | Construction News

What Man City wantsAttention to detailAmbitious futureWhat makes a good Man City contractor?Most football clubs don’t have a head of infrastructure. After

www.constructionnews.co.uk

 

[CarlosTevez'sEnglishTutor]

I was looking for something else entirely yesterday but came across this piece from 2015 which you may find interesting (presuming you've not seen it).

Man City infrastructure chief: 'People in construction should challenge us' | Construction News

What Man City wantsAttention to detailAmbitious futureWhat makes a good Man City contractor?Most football clubs don’t have a head of infrastructure. After

www.constructionnews.co.uk

Never seen this, thanks for sharing. I like the bit in the article where it says BAM took on 92 apprentices from local postcodes during the CFA project, 22 of which learned how to read and write, with all 92 being offered permanent jobs at the end (unsure whether with BAM or not). Social value is the current buzzword(s) that contractors use when bidding for such projects. Fair play to BAM, they looked like they really delivered on this aspect where many other main contractors overpromise and underdeliver.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Outdoor bars all gone

 

[Del_Bosque]

Wonder if any enterprising business people will open some bars/cafes in the old Industrial buildings on the Bradford Rd/Old Mill St/Pollard st approach to the Stadium/Arena which is being pushed as a main route

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Expansion,modernisation,management and increased capacity in all aspects of the transport system and infrastructure are essential for the success of the Arena and matchday experience of City fans.

CITYs contribution to Manchester’s economy is immense and worthy of support from local and central government.

Etihad Rail is a long established infrastructure developer and operator in the Middle East,it wouldn’t surprise me if their experience and or finance is forthcoming at some stage.

It needs to change and quickly !!

 

[Corky]

Wonder if any enterprising business people will open some bars/cafes in the old Industrial buildings on the Bradford Rd/Old Mill St/Pollard st approach to the Stadium/Arena which is being pushed as a main route

Not many left, the large one is Brunswick Mill and before it is Ancoats Works, both planned for housing developments.

 

[Keeper!]

IF IF IF....The Etihad had a 75000 capacity now,and a 'home' North stand would we sell it out for PL & CL games ?

For a lot of matches we would and if the club made tickets affordable and easy to obtain a majority of matches would be sold out.

 

[HelloCity]

The resellers market helps keep tickets more expensive. People will pay as much as they think a ticket is worth, so if the club charged £30 for a big game, a reseller could sell that £30 ticket for £60 knowing people would be willing to pay that price. That means the club are losing a lot of potential revenue which is going to someone else. If the club charge £60 themselves, then the amount of people willing to pay more than that suddenly falls quite drastically and therefore there’s a lot less potential revenue lost to the resellers market. Ultimately it’s the fans who lose out.

 

[BlueMoonday]

The resellers market helps keep tickets more expensive. Ultimately people will pay as much as they think a ticket is worth, so if the club charged £30 for a big game, a reseller could sell that £30 ticket for £60 knowing people would be willing to pay that price. That means the club are losing a lot of potential revenue which is going to someone else. If the club charge £60 themselves, then the amount of people willing to pay more than that suddenly falls quite drastically and therefore there’s a lot less potential revenue lost to the resellers market. Ultimately it’s the fans who lose out.

It's the loyal fan base who lose out, who've been going for years but aren't current ST holders. We will be potentially paying £58 to £67 a home game thanks to the demand driven by tourists and JCLs.

I think there should be a balance between maximising revenue and keeping ticket prices low for fans who've been attending for years. We have a perfectly good points system in place to facilitate this. A certain amount of tickets should be capped at a specific price and sold to Cityzen members above "x" points. Now I don't know if that's legal but given resellers can make obscene profits I'm sure it could be legal. The remaining allocation can be sold to the tourists and JCLs who will pay a higher price.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

For a lot of matches we would and if the club made tickets affordable and easy to obtain a majority of matches would be sold out.

Pricing is so important.

Reduce them and cap them,then target Mancunians young and old with season and matchday ticket offers.

The 'casual' International students and visitors can also be accommodated on an adhoc priced basis.

Football in general should reduce all ticket prices !!

 

[Keeper!]

Pricing is so important.

Reduce them and cap them,then target Mancunians young and old with season and matchday ticket offers.

The 'casual' International students and visitors can also be accommodated on an adhoc priced basis.

Football in general should reduce all ticket prices !!

And reducing players Wages!!

But the Saudis' have destroyed any hope of that happening.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Expansion,modernisation,management and increased capacity in all aspects of the transport system and infrastructure are essential for the success of the Arena and matchday experience of City fans.

CITYs contribution to Manchester’s economy is immense and worthy of support from local and central government.

Etihad Rail is a long established infrastructure developer and operator in the Middle East,it wouldn’t surprise me if their experience and or finance is forthcoming at some stage.

It needs to change and quickly !!

Just looking at the live cam on the new Arena's site. Surely the canal could be utilised better for transportation to games and gigs? Are there many locks between there and the centre? Obviously that would impact on viability.

 

[bluwes]

Just looking at the live cam on the new Arena's site. Surely the canal could be utilised better for transportation to games and gigs? Are there many locks between there and the centre? Obviously that would impact on viability.

You’ve answered your own question there, too many locks. I know a guy who runs two barges to Old Toilet every match day and he would have loved to do the same to the Etihad but it just isn’t viable.

 

[Jacko1956]

The resellers market helps keep tickets more expensive. People will pay as much as they think a ticket is worth, so if the club charged £30 for a big game, a reseller could sell that £30 ticket for £60 knowing people would be willing to pay that price. That means the club are losing a lot of potential revenue which is going to someone else. If the club charge £60 themselves, then the amount of people willing to pay more than that suddenly falls quite drastically and therefore there’s a lot less potential revenue lost to the resellers market. Ultimately it’s the fans who lose out.

Ticket Exchange is a prime example of the club making huge profits on listed tickets ! Never needed to use it before but for the Livetpool game last season.my Grandson was ill and couldn't attend so listed his ticket the night before as I thought at it will give anothet blue a chance to attend !! The ticket was an under 18 ticket that per match was just under £12 in East Stand Level 3 and received an email saying his seat had been sold and would be reimbursed 1/19 of his season ticket price ! Wasn't bothered about the money but it did take 2 weeks for it to go into my bank ! At the match a guy was sat in my Grandsons seat and got chatting to him and he said he's a good day so far ! He'd been to the academy stadium for a meal free drink and a programme and a parking place and a ride to the ground !!! Didn't crack on it was my Grandsons seat so asked him how much tha had cost him , he said £225 ! City are making a fortune from ticket exchange I recond including the seat price they made about £125 clear profit as the seat cost about £60 for an adult and the meal and bits about £40 !