North Stand Construction Discussion

Norman kneejerk said:
Family tickets all around would be better imo. When I was a kid I learnt how to support the team from the adults around me as it was way before family stands.
Gangs of kids eating sweets maybe taken along by a half interested parent don't really add much imo.
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Exactly, and there was a lot more violence about back then for a lot of us to contend with. You don't need a family stand these days, you just need to ensure families can afford to come by pricing it appropriately.
 
Norman kneejerk said:
Family tickets all around would be better imo. When I was a kid I learnt how to support the team from the adults around me as it was way before family stands.
Gangs of kids eating sweets maybe taken along by a half interested parent don't really add much imo.
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Not a bad shout …I have tickets in SS2 but the problem is getting tickets for the youngsters - all the seats are taken so how do you get them in ? They are the future ……
Hoping some fans move to new NS so seats in SS come available and I could grab extra STs for young ones
 
Norman kneejerk said:
Family tickets all around would be better imo. When I was a kid I learnt how to support the team from the adults around me as it was way before family stands.
Gangs of kids eating sweets maybe taken along by a half interested parent don't really add much imo.
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Well one of the issues I've seen is, it's a lot of moms and sons (normally because the dads support one of the cartel clubs and refuse to go) and they seem to get really vexed when people stand up around them when something happens on the pitch.
 
I'm not really here said:
Well one of the issues I've seen is, it's a lot of moms and sons (normally because the dads support one of the cartel clubs and refuse to go) and they seem to get really vexed when people stand up around them when something happens on the pitch.
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Not where my regular seat is but noticed a lot of mums when I've moved seats for a cup game.
Great they bring their kids but from what I've seen they don't really get that involved and maybe they'd enjoy it more mingled with the regulars. That acceptance from the adults really makes you feel part of it I used to find.
 
supercity88 said:
The club need to discuss this strategy now and see what people would like to see. In my mind you don't need a family stand, but you do need appropriate pricing for families to come to games and this is securing our future fan base. The new North Stand needs to be attractive to those who want to sing and make an atmosphere, and tickets will then open up elsewhere in the stadium and those in the family stand should be financially compensated for moving. They should have their current price (or price at the time) honoured wherever they move to, unless it's cheaper.

I don't think you have to completely exclude kids from the new stand, but I don't think we need a dedicated family stand.

I might be on my own with this one though - and that's why the club need to start talking about what fans want. It may actually be a more common opinion amongst fans that they want a family stand over a home end, who knows!
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I’ve said it for a while now, with the sterilised atmosphere in stadiums nowadays, there really isn’t need for dedicated family sections anymore. Just price it so that families can afford to come and sit them anywhere in the stadium.
 
Beaker said:
I’ve said it for a while now, with the sterilised atmosphere in stadiums nowadays, there really isn’t need for dedicated family sections anymore. Just price it so that families can afford to come and sit them anywhere in the stadium.
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I agree.

For that to happen the club will have to put 2, 3, 4 or even 5 seats aside together across the stadium with no guarantee the seats will sell 'at the current and future adult and under 18 ticket prices'. The only way the club are going to do that and sell the seats is a via discounted family bundle, meaning the club are getting less match day revenue from those seats, which is something the club doesn't want to do.
 
Norman kneejerk said:
Not where my regular seat is but noticed a lot of mums when I've moved seats for a cup game.
Great they bring their kids but from what I've seen they don't really get that involved and maybe they'd enjoy it more mingled with the regulars. That acceptance from the adults really makes you feel part of it I used to find.
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Single mums you say, interesting
 
jrb said:
I agree.

For that to happen the club will have to put 2, 3, 4 or even 5 seats aside together across the stadium with no guarantee the seats will sell 'at the current and future adult and under 18 ticket prices'. The only way the club are going to do that and sell the seats is a via discounted family bundle, meaning the club are getting less match day revenue from those seats, which is something the club doesn't want to do.
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Exactly, and back to square one we go.
 
jrb said:
I agree.

For that to happen the club will have to put 2, 3, 4 or even 5 seats aside together across the stadium with no guarantee the seats will sell 'at the current and future adult and under 18 ticket prices'. The only way the club are going to do that and sell the seats is a via discounted family bundle, meaning the club are getting less match day revenue from those seats, which is something the club doesn't want to do.
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@Alex - City Matters - it would be really useful if you could get any information from the club on their proposed strategy for ticketing in the NS once completed.

In my opinion the club should be treating the whole of the NS as a blank canvas, but appreciate many in NSL1 may not be happy with that idea.

I'd market the NSL2 as the priority area with cheaper tickets to incentivise the singers to move in and would try and get 1894 to help coordinate. We're looking at circa 8,000 new seats so if we can get a similar number moving into the stand thanks to attractive pricing, then that provides more than enough room elsewhere in the stadium for groups of families to sit together.

They should also be incentivised for having to move, with fair priced tickets and not be looking at paying more.

Anything remaining can then be offered as new season tickets or matchday tickets.

This all comes down to pricing. As a fanbase we want a good atmosphere but I find as a fanbase we will allow a lot of things to get in the way of that. A lot want to stay near the away fans. But cheaper tickets will get a lot willing to move, and this is going to take a joint effort between fans and the club to be a success. The South Stand L3 was £299 season tickets when it opened so they did look to incentivise people to move there, there's no reason they can't do it with the North Stand and finally deliver a proper home end under the roof. But fans are going to have to get on board too.
 
In case it gets missed among all the other chat on tickets etc, if any of the drone flyers read this thread would be good to get a zoom on that item next visit. Or anyone using the two east spirals that can see from them.

Almost impossible to tell that far out but it is the right size for the mock-up panel, is in a sensible place and has a supporting frame, if they decide not to put it up on the main structure. Those silvery bits might be segments of the sails, if it is that.

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There's a hell of a lot of lads I know that will not move from SS Level 1 as they want to be next to the away fans so I'm not entirely sure it will end up the vocal 'home end' that a lot are wishing for, I hope I'm wrong, I moved from there 3 years ago as I wanted a better view to be fair, couldn't see anything down near the front as I'm a short arse.

It's tricky for the club as if they displace the family stand fans who genuinely are in there with young kids, they aren't going to want to swap ends and be next to the away fans, most of the vocal fans like being near the away fans because the back and forth between the two is what gets most of the atmosphere going so that's going to be hard to convince them to be at the other end of the ground.

We still get left with the same issue of people that want to be able to take their kids but stay sat in a decent seat (halfway line of CB Level 3) can't access tickets to take them, I've had to buy an adult ticket 4 times this season to take my Son who then sits on my knee because I cant buy one near my season ticket seat.
 
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SiMCFC said:
There's a hell of a lot of lads I know that will not move from SS Level 1 as they want to be next to the away fans so I'm not entirely sure it will end up the vocal 'home end' that a lot are wishing for, I hope I'm wrong.
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I suspect the same and that's why I don't think it will end up as all safe standing.
 
HelloCity said:
I think the seating will be ready for August and the new season 25/26. They’ll just work to get things finished fully after then. The South Stand wasn’t ‘done’ until late 2014 despite opening August 2014 for example.
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Thought it was 2015, 1st home game v Chelsea 3-0
 
LEXSTARproject said:
Here is maybe a solution to this problem, simply move the GA+ section next to the Skybar Section.

No need for a new Joe's section eatery further down, you give that area to your core supporters and install as I said before a double-sided goal-line bar, they have built a massive bar in Coop Live called the Street they could do the same here that services bottom of the North Stand and City Hall.

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I am fed up with these fcuk nameless execs making decisions that are ruining the atmosphere all they are bothered about is money, not the atmosphere.

You cant contact the club to speak about these issues as there are no contact details

We see other clubs trying to do the right except our club

Alex does an amazing job, but is the club listening NO
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Joe’s is not an ‘eatery’ mate. It also has predominantly ‘core’ supporters
 
1 ticket left for Wolves.

4 tickets at this seasons match day ticket prices, not in 2 years time when the North stand is open and the match day tickets will be more expensive, a family of 4, 2 adults, and 2 under 18‘s, would cost £196. It’s not happening for the vast majority of City families is it.

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Hopefully the club will use the North stand expansion and the additional 8000 seats (to fill) for some innovative season ticket and match day ticket offerings and prices? Especially for families and the youth.(under 18’s)

 
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