North Stand Construction Discussion

Marvin. said:
Will there be more than 2 internal levels in the new stand. I think I see a Ground floor, 1st, 2nd and 3rd floors in the new stand.
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By internal, do you mean the concourses and bars etc?

3 levels of bars accessed by everyone and anyone, and top 2 with vip suites and hospitality.
 
Kink Lad Cee said:
I think it's more likely to be around 7000kg

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Ooft. I have to say, I realised very quickly I'd have been quite a bit out. But that heavy would surprise me, if I'm being honest. Could well be, but 1-2 tonnes feels more it, based on the photos. Hopefully someone once gets an answer.
 
Gordyola said:
Do you have access to the 3D model? If so how is it calculating the mass when density is set to 0? Or is it picking up the mass of each component ( applied material properties ) and applying to the assembly?
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It's Solidworks so nothing makes sense with this software. Material is set to Carbon Steel and the software is giving a volume of 0.872m³. Multiplying this by 7850kg/m² give us the 6.8 Tonnes. The 3D model I knocked up is very rough with guestimated lengths but I reckon it won't be far off.
 
Goatmeal said:
I had it at 6000kg after calculating a few plates. 7000kg wouldn’t surprise me
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whats a (metric) ton between friends?

So basically atop those 8 spindly columns there's going to be over 12 ton of steelwork onto which the whole fecking roof is going to hang off and a fat nacker or two wobbling across the skywalk sh*tting their pants!

Good job these architects know what they're doing!
 
Kink Lad Cee said:
It's Solidworks so nothing makes sense with this software. Material is set to Carbon Steel and the software is giving a volume of 0.872m³. Multiplying this by 7850kg/m² give us the 6.8 Tonnes. The 3D model I knocked up is very rough with guestimated lengths but I reckon it won't be far off.
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Fair enough I wondered if you were working on the actual design I use to use SW big brother CATIA
 
Having been in heavy engineering most of my life I don’t think some people appreciate how complicated this build is. Even I’m amazed how from the first footing to compleation this new stand is being done. Thanks to the two guys flying the drones over the build gives a very good perspective of the whole build. Has a side note you could see a very possible expansion(hopefully in the near future) of both sides of the East and west stand corners. I know others on here have said it would be tricky to do but there are ways in construction that it’s permissible.
 
Spanishbob said:
Having been in heavy engineering most of my life I don’t think some people appreciate how complicated this build is. Even I’m amazed how from the first footing to compleation this new stand is being done. Thanks to the two guys flying the drones over the build gives a very good perspective of the whole build. Has a side note you could see a very possible expansion(hopefully in the near future) of both sides of the East and west stand corners. I know others on here have said it would be tricky to do but there are ways in construction that it’s permissible.
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It’s the cable net as to why the corners haven’t been done. The cables come in from ground level and go right through the middle of where any terracing would be. It’s another reason why we have those dodgy ‘temp’ corners at the south stand end. It’s the best they could fudge it and seeing as though they’ve not done the same with the north stand, it seems the final look wasn’t universally liked…

Tbh, there’s not really any point of doing the corners anyway without doing the sides since the design of the corners would need to line up with whatever sides were in place. More likely is that they do the sides and corners at the same time some time in the distance future.
 
Spanishbob said:
Having been in heavy engineering most of my life I don’t think some people appreciate how complicated this build is. Even I’m amazed how from the first footing to compleation this new stand is being done. Thanks to the two guys flying the drones over the build gives a very good perspective of the whole build. Has a side note you could see a very possible expansion(hopefully in the near future) of both sides of the East and west stand corners. I know others on here have said it would be tricky to do but there are ways in construction that it’s permissible.
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City wouldn't have developed their draft plans & CGIs if construction wasn't possible.

Building up & out,encompassing the spirals, is in relativel terms quite simple and won't require any closure.

If it happens it will increase the FB & corporate offering significantly, and take the capacity to 85000, just north of the Maine Rd record of 84569
 
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