Tim of the Oak
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North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc
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Centurions
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Have you not answered your own question there? If an ST doesn't turn up for whatever reason and doesn't list it then the seat will remain empty, if an FG doesn't want to go then the seat gets sold. Perhaps the club see it as an attempt at sorting the atmosphere "problem".I can't say I've ever come to that conclusion reading the comments, but fair enough, if that's what you think.
I still don't understand, and I'm sure other City fans don't understand either, why the club doesn't make normal season tickets available instead of Flexi-Gold season tickets.
Bar the upfront payment, and the chance to resell the seat as a match day seat if the person forgets to buy the match ticket in time.
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Wouldn't be surprised if the absolute damp squid of a singing section the club allowed the fans to have at the cup final helped dissuade them from foregoing the incremental income of more corporate seats at the expense of creating one at the etihad as when given a singing section we still made fuck all noise.A blue Wall, if you want to call it that, would have made a difference to the future atmosphere inside the Etihad.
Improving the atmosphere Inside the Etihad was pushed by the fans. The club know that. The club pushed back on it and decided to go for match day revenue instead as the priority.
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I have moved 4 times in the Etihad Stadium.
1) When 215 was made corporate, I moved from 216
2) The front rows in 105 were moved
3) Then I moved to 305 as the price discount on my seat in 105 ran out
4) Back down to 105 as it was too quiet for my liking
Just move with friends and family if you need to.
It's not me ,I'm not moving lol, I just saw the post and put it here.
Yet we had plenty of games last season where match tickets were clearly too expensive, that didn't sell, and there were 1000's of empty and unsold seats.If they’ve got a season card and turn up regularly they will do. Let’s not beat about the bush. The main advantage of a season card over a flexi
Is to shift tickets for games fabs are not going to. We don’t create a Blue Wall if the priority is to favour fans who don’t attend regularly.
Who at the club is responsible for that?
You can't blame season ticket holders not turning up for that.
The 3 best atmosphere games last season, bar United, etc, were the fan protest games. All of those games had thousands of empty seats due to the crazy ticket prices, which were approved by the directors.
If it wasn't for the fan protests, 10,000's of empty seats on TV after kickoff, and the subsequent and personal intervention of Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon, the directors would have continued approving the crazy matchday ticket prices.
How much are the tickets going to be in the new NSL2 home tier/end with hospitality, seated, and safe standing tickets all mixed in together?
Tim of the Oak
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I thought you lads objected to people taking credit for the price reductions. I’m very happy to give credit to the protest movement btw.Yet we had plenty of games last season where match tickets were clearly too expensive, that didn't sell, and there were 1000's of empty and unsold seats.
Who at the club is responsible for that?
You can't blame season ticket holders not turning up for that.
The 3 best atmosphere games last season, bar United, etc, were the fan protest games. All of those games had thousands of empty seats due to the crazy ticket prices, which were approved by the directors.
If it wasn't for the fan protests, 10,000's of empty seats on TV after kickoff, and the subsequent and personal intervention of Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon, the directors would have continued approving the crazy matchday ticket prices.
I can’t remember the Derby being thet good an atmosphere.
I'm probably missing the point, but what difference does it make where the new season tickets are? If they'd guaranteed 4000 in the new stand but none in the rest of the ground, would you be happier? And if so, why?
The logic is that the North Stand is meant to be the atmospheric home end. So if those 4k season tickets are there then they will be regulars. If they are scattered around the ground, the availability of tickets is there, but they arent concentrated in the new stand itself. I think, is the point people are making.
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But will they be? Or will they be people moving from other stands? If 2000 of them are kids cards how does that make a 'wall' if all 4000 are in the same place?The logic is that the North Stand is meant to be the atmospheric home end. So if those 4k season tickets are there then they will be regulars. If they are scattered around the ground, the availability of tickets is there, but they arent concentrated in the new stand itself. I think, is the point people are making.
There's no guarantee the FG seat will get sold. Like there is no guarantee the ST seat will get sold on the ticket exchange. Both ticket sales are dependent on factors like the opposition, the location of the seat, sitting, standing, etc.Have you not answered your own question there? If an ST doesn't turn up for whatever reason and doesn't list it then the seat will remain empty, if an FG doesn't want to go then the seat gets sold. Perhaps the club see it as an attempt at sorting the atmosphere "problem".
My seat always sells if I can't make the match and list it on the TE. SSL1, block 115. Other City fans aren't so fortunate with their seats.
The New North Stand should have been our Kop, Holte End, and Gollowgate, and should have been our answer to the Yellow Wall, but no Blue Wall. @HelloCity is right in his description.
The easy solution for the corporate seating area is to make the sky bar area bigger and have seats up there that have access to the Sky Bar instead of the GA+ section in the middle. This would be a better solution for everyone.
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I don't really disagree as such. But that ship has long sailed and we are where we are.
Pretty comfortable from what has been said that @HelloCity is wrong with his assumption that the GA+ is relocating, which was what my point on that item was. He/I may or may not be wrong on the City Hall as potentially additional hospitality. That's open to interpretation and I am open to the conjecture being right. We can't know at this point though, happy for time to tell.
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Objected?I thought you lads objected to people taking credit for the price reductions. I’m very happy to give credit to the protest movement btw.
I can’t remember the Derby being thet good an atmosphere.
You've lost me on that one?
City fans deserve all the credit. From the City fans who began the protests (and got slaughtered on here by some BM forum members), to the 10,000's of City fans who supported the protests, and kept the protests going.
A blue Wall, if you want to call it that, would have made a difference to the future atmosphere inside the Etihad.
Improving the atmosphere Inside the Etihad was pushed by the fans. The club know that. The club pushed back on it and decided to go for match day revenue instead as the priority.
In fairness, that's not true.
The club didn't 'push back' on it, they continuously state otherwise, and have openly put that at the front of this stand development.
Whether you, I or others agree with what they are doing is the best way to achieve that, is another matter. But that is a world away from them pushing back or choosing to not make the atmosphere a priority like they say.
ytic04
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What's the chances of relocating together the 12 seats we have.?
But will they be? Or will they be people moving from other stands? If 2000 of them are kids cards how does that make a 'wall' if all 4000 are in the same place?
Depends on who takes up the new seats I guess. Fair point on the youth position allocation.
Marvin.
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High I hope given this part of the statement...What's the chances of relocating together the 12 seats we have.?
- A priority relocation window to choose any available general admission seat in the stadium. This includes the option to relocate to the expanded North Stand or stay within the ample available seats close to them in Level 0 (formerly known as Level 1).
dadnlad
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youll need to be quick at start of window whenever that is and have a planWhat's the chances of relocating together the 12 seats we have.?
ytic04
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Yeah, what's the chances of finding 12 together though?
In fairness, that's not true.
The club didn't 'push back' on it, they continuously state otherwise, and have openly put that at the front of this stand development.
Whether you, I or others agree with what they are doing is the best way to achieve that, is another matter. But that is a world away from them pushing back or choosing to not make the atmosphere a priority like they say.
It depends how you look at it.
OK, the club didn't push back on it, I'll accept that, and take that back. But I certainly don't think improving the atmosphere with a proper home end was at the forefront of the clubs thinking and priorities for the new NSL2.(in my opinion)
Like I've already posted, there hasn't been a single mention by the club of a dedicated singing section/block on the new NSL2, which needs to be a minimum requirement if the fans on NSL2 are going to improve the atmosphere inside the Etihad.
The only new announcement we've had from the club today is 500 City Hall hospitality seats. Another hospitality section. That isn't going to.improve the atmosphere inside the Etihad.
My steak is burning. :-(
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TBF, I don't think any fans would have outsug the Palace Ultras. Villa fans got slaughtered as well. If the penalty had gone in that would have made a difference to our support. We've never been great at Wembley, bar some matches. Away from home in the PL we have one of the best away supports, acknowledged by home fans in the PL.Wouldn't be surprised if the absolute damp squid of a singing section the club allowed the fans to have at the cup final helped dissuade them from foregoing the incremental income of more corporate seats at the expense of creating one at the etihad as when given a singing section we still made fuck all noise.