North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc

Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest? No.

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
 
TivvyBlue said:
Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest?

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
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Great post
 
TivvyBlue said:
Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest? No.

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
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I'm not sure anyone has blamed those who have bought Flexi Gold mate. On the other hand, there's plenty of blame being aimed at the club.
 
TivvyBlue said:
Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest? No.

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
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That's not correct at all!

There's no misplaced anger whatsoever. We're angry that the club are ripping you off! Not that you've taken the only opportunity they've put on the table to 'get a season ticket'.

FYI, you can pay a seasoncard in 10 installments by direct debit. You don't have to pay it up front.
 
Manchester33 said:
I’m genuinely concerned that so many blues are accepting this money grab from the club.

The clubs policy of ONLY offering flexi-golds instead of season cards is absolutely terrible for us fans.

Flexi-gold is very clever from the club. Fans who have been used to paying extortionate match day ticket prices (which is another issue in itself) are tricked into thinking they’re getting a good deal. In a tiny minority of FG cases, there are fans who might save money (attend very few games). If those fans want to attend most or every game, then they are being ripped off by the club.

The passive acceptance of FG enables those at the club making these decisions to crack on. We need fans to stand together against the FG only policy.

Flexi-gold is NOT a seasoncard. We need new season cards, not money spinning membership types.
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But we don't need new Season Tickets holders who only go to the big games and bin cold nights in December.It is my understanding is that Flexi gold meets the criteria of certain fans .Not everyone wants a season ticket .some people either can't afford one or just happy going to a few games a season
You need to be a fanatic going every game to follow City.A season ticket would be absolutely no use to loads of fans.Getting rid of £35 membership fee and reducing match day tickets prices would be much better way forward for a lot of blues.I don't go to enough games now to justify ST or FG and refuse to pay £35 for membership card .So restricted to cup games and if a spare from family or friends pop up
 
Manchester33 said:
That's not correct at all!

There's no misplaced anger whatsoever. We're angry that the club are ripping you off! Not that you've taken the only opportunity they've put on the table to 'get a season ticket'.

FYI, you can pay a seasoncard in 10 installments by direct debit. You don't have to pay it up front.
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Sorry I meant buying matchday tickets as opposed to a seasoncard.
 
cyberblue said:
But we don't need new Season Tickets holders who only go to the big games and bin cold nights in December of my understanding is that Flexi gold meets the criteria of certain fans .Not everyone wants a season ticket .some people either can't afford one or just happy going to a few games a season
You need to be a fanatic to follow City.A season ticket would be absolutely no use to loads of fans.Getting rid of £35 membership fee and reducing match day tickets prices would be better for a lot of blues
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Why can't there be a choice between having a season ticket or having Flexi Gold, and binning off the up front cost of Flexi Gold while we're at it?
 
cyberblue said:
But we don't need new Season Tickets holders who only go to the big games and bin cold nights in December of my understanding is that Flexi gold meets the criteria of certain fans .Not everyone wants a season ticket .some people either can't afford one or just happy going to a few games a season
You need to be a fanatic to follow City.A season ticket would be absolutely no use to loads of fans.Getting rid of £35 membership fee and reducing match day tickets prices would be better for a lot of blues
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You're conflating different issues.

The ONLY reason the club are promoting FG over normal SCs is to drive revenue. If it wasn't, why not offer fans the choice? Why not offer seasoncard holders more flexibility if they wanted to reduce no shows?

If fans want to pay a £150 membership that guarantees tickets to bigger games, that's fine. But don't tax fans who want to go to every game £150!!

The whole no-show thing is nonsense based on outdated statistics.
 
TivvyBlue said:
My passive acceptance enables the club though...
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Yes it does!!

Here's how the club works. (based on years of experience working with them. I've sat in meetings with Danny and Roel and discussed Flexigold).

They will do things like survey all flexigold members and ask 'are you happy you've got a flexigold ticket'.

You'll say yes, because you can only compare it to a matchday membership.

The club then uses that as justification for its decisions, saying it's 'consulted fans' and is now ONLY offering FGs going forward. Then, we completely lose the next generation of consistent match going supporters who are further priced out by the £150 tax you're having to pay!

Please do not be passive. We want a better deal for fans like you. As a minimum you should be offered the choice of both an SC or FG.
 
Manchester33 said:
It really isn't.

The poster is completely missing the point. There is no fan vs fan anger. It's the complete opposite... fans sticking up for fans!
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I know the little bit of friction is unintended but maybe everyone could take a beat and move on to discuss other stuff. These flexi-goods aren’t the biggest issue facing fans or the club.
 
Manchester33 said:
Yes it does!!

Here's how the club works. (based on years of experience working with them. I've sat in meetings with Danny and Roel and discussed Flexigold).

They will do things like survey all flexigold members and ask 'are you happy you've got a flexigold ticket'.

You'll say yes, because you can only compare it to a matchday membership.

The club then uses that as justification for its decisions, saying it's 'consulted fans' and is now ONLY offering FGs going forward. Then, we completely lose the next generation of consistent match going supporters who are further priced out by the £150 tax you're having to pay!

Please do not be passive. We want a better deal for fans like you. As a minimum you should be offered the choice of both an SC or FG.
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I appreciate it - FWIW, the club sent out a survey to FG members and I essentially answered "I'd prefer a gold season ticket" to every question it allowed me to. I don't think I've been passive in anything I've said. I wasn't defending an exclusive FG only policy, just defending those who've bought them, a majority (I'm sure) who would've preferred a gold seasoncard, or at the very least, the option of one.
 
TivvyBlue said:
I appreciate it - FWIW, the club sent out a survey to FG members and I essentially answered "I'd prefer a gold season ticket" to every question it allowed me to. I don't think I've been passive in anything I've said. I wasn't defending an exclusive FG only policy, just defending those who've bought them, a majority (I'm sure) who would've preferred a gold seasoncard, or at the very least, the option of one.
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The ones offered (bar the kids which are pretty cheap anyway) had to qualify and would have spent a lot more doing so than the flexi costs for the same games, so they were welcomed.

Obviously they aren't as good as a proper season ticket, but they may be a pathway to one like Silvers ended up being. The rules change every season and the ones that go to the most games will probably benefit first again.
 
TivvyBlue said:
Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest? No.

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
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Manchester33 said:
You're conflating different issues.

The ONLY reason the club are promoting FG over normal SCs is to drive revenue. If it wasn't, why not offer fans the choice? Why not offer seasoncard holders more flexibility if they wanted to reduce no shows?

If fans want to pay a £150 membership that guarantees tickets to bigger games, that's fine. But don't tax fans who want to go to every game £150!!

The whole no-show thing is nonsense based on outdated statistics.
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I'm not conflicting any thing.I and many others don't want either SC or FG.I'd prefer to just pay for a game when I want to go but won't pay £35 membership.Flexi gold shouldn't come with an up front cost either
The club is ripping fans of left right and center there is no doubt about that
Many tickets which are available for the likes of Forrest,Ipswich ext aren't available for Unit*d .Liverpool.Spurs ext unless you willing to pay £350 plus for a £30 meal in some restaurant in town then make your own way to the ground
The club has sold it's soul and has done so for many years but can't blame people who take Flexi gold option as they see it as best way for them to watch the games
Ps there were 1or2 no-shows for the Forrest game
 
TivvyBlue said:
Every time the flexi-gold is brought up on here, there seems to be a big bit of misplaced aggression from "proper" ST holders about those who've bought them. I'm one of those. Would I have bought a normal season ticket if I had the option? Yes, undoubtably I would, but that wasn't available to me. I hadn't been in the financial situation to afford one until now.

Am I a City fan and want to get to as many games as possible? Yes.

Do I want to have the same/guaranteed seat? Yes.

Do I want to pay less to attend games? Yes.

Do I want to have to spend a ridiculous sum of money in July every year buying tickets on my credit card and spending the rest of the season paying that off and accruing interest? No.

There's a misplaced anger at those that have bought flexi-gold. It's a far better deal than buying tickets on a matchday membership. I don't see why anyone would convert from a gold/platinum to a flexi-gold as it's doesn't make any sense, but those lucky enough to have "proper" season tickets would do exactly the same as I did if they were in the situation I was as a matchday member without a season ticket. You cannot blame people for buying them if they are the only thing on offer; blame the club.
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As far as I’m aware, nobody has been aggressive towards people who take up the flexi-gold, feel free to point me to a post I may have missed if you disagree. If I was a match day member and had the chance to get one, I would take it. People are critical of the club as this is the only multiple match product they are offering (I refuse to call it a season ticket). People are comparing it to the match day membership and thinking it’s better than that, which it clearly is, but that is a very low bar to be honest, match day members are treated appallingly. It’s become a depressing race to the bottom.

Take the flexi-gold by all means, but don’t let it stop you from arguing for a better deal.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I know the little bit of friction is unintended but maybe everyone could take a beat and move on to discuss other stuff. These flexi-goods aren’t the biggest issue facing fans or the club.
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Regardless of people's views on FG as the only offer now and seemingly going forward the fact that the club only released 600 in the summer is a fucking disgrace.
 
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