North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc

[pride in battle]

This isn’t about me.

I don’t want to be stood at the back of a 8000, 2nd tier, with 5000 fans sat down in-front of me. If I want to do that, I could have moved to the back of SSL3 when I had the chance.

I’m not waving a telescopic flag at the back of NSL2. What is the point?

I’m assuming there won’t be any 1894 drop downs allowed at the front of NSL2, as City will be using their Tifo mechanism for drop downs.

I already stand on SSL1 with 100’s and 1000’s of singers, when fans can be bothered to sing.

Both Milan clubs 'ultras' are high up, waving telescopic flags.

 

[jrb]

Woul

Wouldn’t take much to take out more rows of seats and replace with safe standing seats. If you are right though and there aren’t 3000 fans that want to move to safe standing ,it win’t matter

It’s not about adding safe standing barriers and creating safe standing seats, it’s about season ticket holders being relocated from those seats to other seats. Why would the club do that when they have just opened the tier and sold seating season tickets.

 

[jrb]

Both Milan clubs 'ultras' are high up, waving telescopic flags.

You are right. And wrong. They are high up. But they are at the front and middle of the tier, not at the back of the tier. The Ultras, their flags and banners are visible, and their support is loud and audible at the front of the tier. That’s exactly want I wanted years ago when we first all started talking about what we wanted the NSL2 home end to be like. The bottom tier is L1, like our NSL1.

AC Milan. Curva South. Ultras.

I’d say easily 3000 singers.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Ha! It’s got nothing to do with 1894. Do you honestly think 3000 singers would follow 1894 to NSL2. Stop it!! Not a chance.


You know very well the club could have started the process of creating a proper singing section on NSL2 and filled it with as many singers as possible. The club could have advertised it, pushed it, and organised it. The club has all the fan data to do that. The club could have relocated as many singers into a specific block or blocks on NSL2 if they wanted to do that. The club still hasn’t. The club has got 6 months to do that until NSL2 is open. I’ll put my head on the chopping block now. That isn’t happening.

To be fair they get the Wembley singing section sorted in enough time, although it was a bit shite against Palace. It would be a shame if the club & 1894 don’t find common ground, imo the club should be bending over backwards to get those guys in there, you won’t get those in SS0 SS2 & KC that love the banter with away fans, but there may be enough of the 1894 guys to start something that could last generations, the club should also be encouraging 1894 membership take up like they do with supporters clubs

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

1000, 2000, 3000 seats can be swapped for safe standing within any 2-3 weeks in off-season. Just because they haven't put them in now, doesn't mean they can't (putting aside whether they would or wouldn't). Similarly the 3000 already in can also jusy as easily be pulled out and repaced with regular seats any time. It will all depend on the demand and the shouts for that.

When you say all depends on demand, what does that mean?

Do you mean if they sell out instantly? What are they going off to prove their is demand? A survey, consultation?

 

[jrb]

To be fair they get the Wembley singing section sorted in enough time, although it was a bit shite against Palace. It would be a shame if the club & 1894 don’t find common ground, imo the club should be bending over backwards to get those guys in there, you won’t get those in SS0 SS2 & KC that love the banter with away fans, but there may be enough of the 1894 guys to start something that could last generations, the club should also be encouraging 1894 membership take up like they do with supporters clubs

Yes, 1894 do work with the club on fan relocations for certain matches and for cup finals. I have never said they don’t. But unless 1894 move over as a group to help create a proper signing section at the back of NSL2 along with the help of the club, that won’t happen, unless the club does that itself. Up to now there is now sign of the club doing that. The club shouldn’t wait on 1894 to get that process started.

 

[urban genie]

I am in SSL019(old120) we sing every game

this new stand info does not make me want to move.

It should be safe standing fully hospitality in the far back or one corner and family stand reduced into another corner.

behind the goal and most of the new teir should be blues stood up making noise not tourists on. a hotel package with museum tour

 

[.db.]

To be fair they get the Wembley singing section sorted in enough time, although it was a bit shite against Palace. It would be a shame if the club & 1894 don’t find common ground, imo the club should be bending over backwards to get those guys in there, you won’t get those in SS0 SS2 & KC that love the banter with away fans, but there may be enough of the 1894 guys to start something that could last generations, the club should also be encouraging 1894 membership take up like they do with supporters clubs

The club did put out that they wanted 1894 to be ‘anchor tenants’ (club’s words) of the new NSL1 big tier.

But I don’t think the consultation between the club and 1894 was extensive. If I remember correctly, 1894 weren’t even invited to attend 3 of the 4 meetings about the new North Stand and certain things were decided on without their input in any way.

I still think fans could drive this though. The club aren’t driving it for us to make this an anthosphere stand, but it’s still in our hands if we get enough of us all wanting to make it so. All we need to do is decide that’s what we want and apply to relocate there.

 

[jrb]

1000, 2000, 3000 seats can be swapped for safe standing within any 2-3 weeks in off-season. Just because they haven't put them in now, doesn't mean they can't (putting aside whether they would or wouldn't). Similarly the 3000 already in can also jusy as easily be pulled out and repaced with regular seats any time. It will all depend on the demand and the shouts for that.

Can you honestly see the club adding a further 1000 safe standing seats at the end of the season if the initial 3000 safe standing seats sell out?

As I’ve said previously, we will never know if the 3000 safe standing seats have sold out completely or not. The club won’t release that information.

We don’t know if all the safe standing seats are Flexi Gold season tickets, or a mixture of Flexi Gold season tickets and match day tickets. If they are a mixture of Flexi Gold season tickets and match day tickets, the safe standing seats will never sell out on a regular basis, especially not for the lesser home games, so there will never be a need for an extra 1000 safe standing seats.

 

[Coatigan]

The city hall bit is what I don’t understand. Have they reduced its occupancy (assume capacity is fixed by planning?) or will others be able to get in there, and if so, who? I’ve got no intention of moving from EL002 but would be interested in a better bar than the EL0 concourse.

Makes zero sense to reduce its capacity. Now it has been built to hold nearly 4 times its now stated capacity, with the bars, toilets, escapes, BoH etc all in place to support it. They could split it up, but that does them reinforce what people are suggesting, i.e that it is an additional level of hospitality. Whether it is or isn't, splitting it up is a bit of a shame imo, compared to how it has been intended.

But in some ways, not atypical as a stage of development of any build really, with further detail and involvement later on.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Yes, 1894 do work with the club on fan relocations for certain matches and for cup finals. I have never said they don’t. But unless 1894 move over as a group to help create a proper signing section at the back of NSL2 along with the help of the club, that won’t happen, unless the club does that itself. Up to now there is now sign of the club doing that. The club shouldn’t wait on 1894 to get that process started.

Totally agree, I’m clinging on to the fact they want to get it absolutely spot on, including price etc before submitting an idea to 1894 and those that want to relocate, my guess is they will fall short in some areas but there might just be enough of a tempter. There’s thousands of frustrated singers around the stadium to, I hope those people see this as an open goal to get involved

 

[pride in battle]

You are right. And wrong. They are high up. But they are at the front and middle of the tier, not at the back of the tier. The Ultras, their flags and banners are visible, and their support is loud and audible at the front of the tier. That’s exactly want I wanted years ago when we first all started talking about what we wanted the NSL2 home end to be like. The bottom tier is L1, like our NSL1.

AC Milan. Curva South, Ultras.

I’d say easily 3000 singers.

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The standing at the north stand also goes down the sides ? It still would be really loud if we had a minimum of 3000 singers in there ?

 

[jrb]

Totally agree, I’m clinging on to the fact they want to get it absolutely spot on, including price etc before submitting an idea to 1894 and those that want to relocate, my guess is they will fall short in some areas but there might just be enough of a tempter. There’s thousands of frustrated singers around the stadium to, I hope those people see this as an open goal to get involved

That’s fair enough.

But until the club goes public on a possible NSL2 singing section, nothing will happen.

 

[Coatigan]

When you say all depends on demand, what does that mean?

Do you mean if they sell out instantly? What are they going off to prove their is demand? A survey, consultation?

I asked the same when they first claimed it. I have no idea. If they sell out, and quicker than other areas of the stand I imagine that is as good a sign as any. If they are the last to sell, then the demand isn't there. As my own take.

In fairness, I thought the club would have done more of a call for these seats between when they first announced them and now, or surveys etc to gage demand.

 

[pride in battle]

Yes, 1894 do work with the club on fan relocations for certain matches and for cup finals. I have never said they don’t. But unless 1894 move over as a group to help create a proper signing section at the back of NSL2 along with the help of the club, that won’t happen, unless the club does that itself. Up to now there is now sign of the club doing that. The club shouldn’t wait on 1894 to get that process started.

Why not, 1894 should be driving it ?

 

[Spanishbob]

Meanwhile how’s the build going. Yawn.

 

[somers01]

Oh great, get rid of hundreds of loyal fans and continue with the restrictions and we still have the coach loads of private school kids from Dundee coming down.

Let’s just concentrate on firming up south stand now for the atmosphere and bollocks to the club who don’t listen a single thing fans want.

 

[pride in battle]

I am in SSL019(old120) we sing every game

this new stand info does not make me want to move.

It should be safe standing fully hospitality in the far back or one corner and family stand reduced into another corner.

behind the goal and most of the new teir should be blues stood up making noise not tourists on. a hotel package with museum tour

It would be if OUR fans decided to go there...

 

[WEMBLEY76]

The rule about 35 home games over the last 3 seasons counts me out for a new season ticket application, sad that I guess many Blues will be in a similar position.

 

[pride in battle]

The club did put out that they wanted 1894 to be ‘anchor tenants’ (club’s words) of the new NSL1 big tier.

But I don’t think the consultation between the club and 1894 was extensive. If I remember correctly, 1894 weren’t even invited to attend 3 of the 4 meetings about the new North Stand and certain things were decided on without their input in any way.

I still think fans could drive this though. The club aren’t driving it for us to make this an anthosphere stand, but it’s still in our hands if we get enough of us all wanting to make it so. All we need to do is decide that’s what we want and apply to relocate there.

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