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[OFFICIAL] - Fernando has signed
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Centurions
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Even if not we could rest Yaya, play Fernando as DM and release Fernandinho further forward. He looked dangerous playing for Brazil farther forward.adrianr said:King Geedorah said:El Mago said:Fernando could be better as a defensive midfielder than Fernandinho.
Fernandinho isn't a defensive midfielder at all and that's been a problem all season. Had he brought his proverbial shooting boots he'd be in double figures already. Yes that's a symptom of our attacking verve, but it also shows he isn't the man to sit and protect the centre backs.
I'm so excited by a proper balanced midfield three.
Don't get too excited, we may not even be playing a midfield 3!
mastermind
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El Mago said:Fernando could be better as a defensive midfielder than Fernandinho.
Defensively Fernando is on another level, because of his strenght and physique. He's like Patrick Viera. Quick, powerful, strong, intelligent, but also going forward he can do the business aswell.
r.soleofsalford
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adrianr said:King Geedorah said:El Mago said:Fernando could be better as a defensive midfielder than Fernandinho.
Fernandinho isn't a defensive midfielder at all and that's been a problem all season. Had he brought his proverbial shooting boots he'd be in double figures already. Yes that's a symptom of our attacking verve, but it also shows he isn't the man to sit and protect the centre backs.
I'm so excited by a proper balanced midfield three.
Don't get too excited, we may not even be playing a midfield 3!
fernando will be a star of the premiership next year
jimharri
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I hope not!r.soleofsalford said:adrianr said:King Geedorah said:Fernandinho isn't a defensive midfielder at all and that's been a problem all season. Had he brought his proverbial shooting boots he'd be in double figures already. Yes that's a symptom of our attacking verve, but it also shows he isn't the man to sit and protect the centre backs.
I'm so excited by a proper balanced midfield three.
Don't get too excited, we may not even be playing a midfield 3!
fernando will be a star of the premiership next year
Premiership = Rugby Union
Premier League = Football
;-)
r.soleofsalford
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jimharri said:I hope not!r.soleofsalford said:adrianr said:Don't get too excited, we may not even be playing a midfield 3!
fernando will be a star of the premiership next year
Premiership = Rugby Union
Premier League = Football
;-)
he`s that good he`ll be great in the premier league and the premiership 8-)
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/...rofiles-manchester-city-signing-fernando.html
A good read if anyone doesn't know much about Fernando. He'll be the signing of the season.....
A good read if anyone doesn't know much about Fernando. He'll be the signing of the season.....
blue_sonic176
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He's played 34 Champions League games. That kind of experience is really going to count for a lot this season in Europe...Can't wait!
Mancitybluemoon1
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Guest blog:
PortuGOAL.net
on Fernando
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2014/June/PortuGOAL-blog-verdict-on-Fernando-Reges-signing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... es-signing</a>
Portuguese football expert and editor of PortuGOAL.net Tom Kundert gives his verdict on City's newest recruit.
So what will Manchester City fans be getting in the signing of FC Porto’s Fernando Reges?
In short, the finest holding midfielder to play in Portugal over the past six seasons. Indeed, the biggest surprise about the departure of the Brazilian-born anchor man is that Porto have managed to keep hold of him for so long.
Fernando is aptly nicknamed “the Octopus” because of his uncanny ability to thwart every opposition attempt to penetrate the Porto defence with his long legs. When he is on his game – which is most of the time – he resembles something akin to a mobile wall, providing an imposing first line of defence in front of the back four.
As a tireless worker, Fernando is the archetypal selfless footballer who is happy to do the often underappreciated industrious work that allows his more flamboyant team-mates to shine. He is a clean tackler for the most part, and his excellent positional sense means he is nearly always in the right place at the right time. However, he is neither afraid to “mix it” nor to commit the foul when the situation calls for it. On top of these qualities, perhaps Fernando’s greatest asset is his extraordinary level of consistency.
While the likes of Lucho González, Hulk, Falcao and James Rodriguez have been showered with praise in several top-notch Porto sides over the last half dozen years, many Portuguese analysts insist Fernando’s contribution has been at least as important. It’s an appraisal that is difficult to argue with.
Bought by Porto in 2007, he spent his first year on loan at top-flight Estrela da Amadora where he was a near ever-present despite only having just turned twenty years old. His positive displays persuaded the perennial Portuguese champions to recall him the following season, yet it was still something of a surprise when he forced his way into a fabulously talented Porto team that ran away with the title and had Champions League ambitions.
His memorable display in the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford in the last 16 of the competition proved it had been the right decision. “He’s a player of immense potential, who always strives to improve his game and who is inexhaustible. It’s natural he is living up to Porto’s expectations,” said his former manager at Estrela, the highly respected Daúto Faquirá at the time.
And thus it proved. Fernando was a rock in Porto’s midfield as the Dragons won the championship in four of his six full seasons at the northern club.
If asked to identify Fernando’s weaknesses, one could point to sporadic fits of pique punctuating an otherwise composed demeanour which have led to unnecessary yellow and red cards, and even accounting for his defensive role, a scoring record of just two goals in over 140 league games for Porto is a poor return for such a dominant side.
Nevertheless, what Fernando brings to the table far outweighs his shortcomings. He has been hankering for a move to a higher-profile league for several years and there is no doubt he has the tools to thrive in the Premier League.
by Tom Kundert
Editor-in-chief of <a class="postlink" href="http://www.portugoal.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.portugoal.net</a>
PortuGOAL.net
on Fernando
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2014/June/PortuGOAL-blog-verdict-on-Fernando-Reges-signing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... es-signing</a>
Portuguese football expert and editor of PortuGOAL.net Tom Kundert gives his verdict on City's newest recruit.
So what will Manchester City fans be getting in the signing of FC Porto’s Fernando Reges?
In short, the finest holding midfielder to play in Portugal over the past six seasons. Indeed, the biggest surprise about the departure of the Brazilian-born anchor man is that Porto have managed to keep hold of him for so long.
Fernando is aptly nicknamed “the Octopus” because of his uncanny ability to thwart every opposition attempt to penetrate the Porto defence with his long legs. When he is on his game – which is most of the time – he resembles something akin to a mobile wall, providing an imposing first line of defence in front of the back four.
As a tireless worker, Fernando is the archetypal selfless footballer who is happy to do the often underappreciated industrious work that allows his more flamboyant team-mates to shine. He is a clean tackler for the most part, and his excellent positional sense means he is nearly always in the right place at the right time. However, he is neither afraid to “mix it” nor to commit the foul when the situation calls for it. On top of these qualities, perhaps Fernando’s greatest asset is his extraordinary level of consistency.
While the likes of Lucho González, Hulk, Falcao and James Rodriguez have been showered with praise in several top-notch Porto sides over the last half dozen years, many Portuguese analysts insist Fernando’s contribution has been at least as important. It’s an appraisal that is difficult to argue with.
Bought by Porto in 2007, he spent his first year on loan at top-flight Estrela da Amadora where he was a near ever-present despite only having just turned twenty years old. His positive displays persuaded the perennial Portuguese champions to recall him the following season, yet it was still something of a surprise when he forced his way into a fabulously talented Porto team that ran away with the title and had Champions League ambitions.
His memorable display in the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford in the last 16 of the competition proved it had been the right decision. “He’s a player of immense potential, who always strives to improve his game and who is inexhaustible. It’s natural he is living up to Porto’s expectations,” said his former manager at Estrela, the highly respected Daúto Faquirá at the time.
And thus it proved. Fernando was a rock in Porto’s midfield as the Dragons won the championship in four of his six full seasons at the northern club.
If asked to identify Fernando’s weaknesses, one could point to sporadic fits of pique punctuating an otherwise composed demeanour which have led to unnecessary yellow and red cards, and even accounting for his defensive role, a scoring record of just two goals in over 140 league games for Porto is a poor return for such a dominant side.
Nevertheless, what Fernando brings to the table far outweighs his shortcomings. He has been hankering for a move to a higher-profile league for several years and there is no doubt he has the tools to thrive in the Premier League.
by Tom Kundert
Editor-in-chief of <a class="postlink" href="http://www.portugoal.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.portugoal.net</a>
Porto fan here.
Just signed up to the forum. Long time Premier League watcher. Occasional lurker on this forum. Especially since the Garcia signing from Benfica. I thought about registering then, alerting you to what you were buying, in the end I didn't, but I do now, because I am very curious to see what kind of level will Fernando reach in a more challenging league and whether he nails down a place in the team.
Fernando is a player that will be dearly missed at Porto. He was the heart or the lungs of the team. Always the unsung hero. Criminally underrated by everyone, including the board, who never really valued him accordingly to his value to the team. The market always seemed to overlook him as well. He arrived in 2007 from some third division team from Brazil. He was loaned out and quickly managed to be a starter in the top division in Portugal. Next season, Porto lost their very reliable holding midfielder to Atletico Madrid(Paulo Assunção) and Fernando, as a 21 year old filled the hole right away and we never looked back. Ever since then he gradually became a silent beast in the team. Looking back, having played with Falcao, Moutinho, James, Hulk, Lisandro Lopez, Guarin, Lucho and several great players, he has always been my favourite player and really... the most important player. His stamina, his aggressiveness, his selfless work, the way he runs around all game and lasts the full season, arriving at the second half of the season still being dominant was key for Porto. Not only locally, but also internationally, winning the Europa League, almost knocking out United in the quarters of the UCL(in the year they won it).
The one thing that always intrigued me about Fernando was that just as he was so prominent for Porto and with so many players being sold for huge sums, no one seemed to really value and appreciate him. At best, he was linked with the likes of Inter Milan. As said above, he never got a good new contract, so he was always at the start of the season a bit unsettled, feeling unappreciated, not valued, not in contention for the national team. It was frustrating to witness. Once the season started, he was back to his usual self of swallow everything that reached the defensive midfield, contributing to two league titles with no defeats 10/11 and 12/13.
This is where the Javi Garcia part also contributed to my amazement. Manchester City, current Premier League Champions were buying a defensive midfielder in the Portuguese League... and they were shelling out 20M Euros for... Javi Garcia!? Seriously... it was shocking. He was slow, didn't have a great range of acting and got away with a lot because he played for Benfica. I know I am partial, but Javi Garcia and David Luiz are two of the more overrated players that I saw recently in Portugal. That's when I started reading this forum more, just to see what kind of things would be said about him and follow his development in the Premier League. I know that he did prove what I anticipated, he was way overpriced, too slow for the league and looked out of place. He ended up filling a role either as centre back or midfield last season and seems like a reliable character, so in the end, not totally disastrous, but still, very short of the required quality at this level.
Fernando always played at Porto in the 433, sitting behind two complete midfielders. With most of the top teams in Europe playing with only two midfielders in the 4231, Fernando was always looked as someone who lacked the technical ability to play in a two man midfield, pass the ball around, charge forward, being an all around player. He improved a lot over the years. He is much better on the ball now. You could see that he really tried to stand out more and more with the ball(the guy clearly was trying to show that he is more than a destroyer), he is far from Fernandinho's level driving forward, not only technically, but mainly... just lacking the experience of playing further up the pitch, being more comfortable and being able to execute and decide better. That requires experience that he never really had at Porto since he had two other central midfielders ahead of him.
I anticipate him being a regular option for the bigger games, where Pellegrini will likely field a three headed monster in midfield. Some away games as well. It will be interesting to see if he manages to establish himself quickly doing what he does best, which is... chasing everyone and making great tackles. He is a tireless player, very athletic, so the style of play in the Premier League shouldn't be a problem. I am curious to see whether he manages to push Fernandinho for a regular place in the team or maybe Yaya turns into more of a regular attacking midfielder and Silva drifts to the right. One thing is for sure, he will be a bargain. Comparing him with William Carvalho, linked with United, he is much better without the ball, more physical, faster and tenacious. Carvalho is just a smart player, with good feet and good passing range, but he is more likely to be exposed by the pace of the league than Fernando and at Sporting's current asking price, Carvalho is a bit like Mangala, great potential, but great risk.
It took a long time and 27 is an unusual age for a player to leave a league like the Portuguese for the Premier League. In the end, he will have the chance to play for one of the top teams and be challenging for titles and and be tested every week. The road might not have been straightforward, but he managed to find a good place. I'll be closely monitoring his progress. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint.
Just signed up to the forum. Long time Premier League watcher. Occasional lurker on this forum. Especially since the Garcia signing from Benfica. I thought about registering then, alerting you to what you were buying, in the end I didn't, but I do now, because I am very curious to see what kind of level will Fernando reach in a more challenging league and whether he nails down a place in the team.
Fernando is a player that will be dearly missed at Porto. He was the heart or the lungs of the team. Always the unsung hero. Criminally underrated by everyone, including the board, who never really valued him accordingly to his value to the team. The market always seemed to overlook him as well. He arrived in 2007 from some third division team from Brazil. He was loaned out and quickly managed to be a starter in the top division in Portugal. Next season, Porto lost their very reliable holding midfielder to Atletico Madrid(Paulo Assunção) and Fernando, as a 21 year old filled the hole right away and we never looked back. Ever since then he gradually became a silent beast in the team. Looking back, having played with Falcao, Moutinho, James, Hulk, Lisandro Lopez, Guarin, Lucho and several great players, he has always been my favourite player and really... the most important player. His stamina, his aggressiveness, his selfless work, the way he runs around all game and lasts the full season, arriving at the second half of the season still being dominant was key for Porto. Not only locally, but also internationally, winning the Europa League, almost knocking out United in the quarters of the UCL(in the year they won it).
The one thing that always intrigued me about Fernando was that just as he was so prominent for Porto and with so many players being sold for huge sums, no one seemed to really value and appreciate him. At best, he was linked with the likes of Inter Milan. As said above, he never got a good new contract, so he was always at the start of the season a bit unsettled, feeling unappreciated, not valued, not in contention for the national team. It was frustrating to witness. Once the season started, he was back to his usual self of swallow everything that reached the defensive midfield, contributing to two league titles with no defeats 10/11 and 12/13.
This is where the Javi Garcia part also contributed to my amazement. Manchester City, current Premier League Champions were buying a defensive midfielder in the Portuguese League... and they were shelling out 20M Euros for... Javi Garcia!? Seriously... it was shocking. He was slow, didn't have a great range of acting and got away with a lot because he played for Benfica. I know I am partial, but Javi Garcia and David Luiz are two of the more overrated players that I saw recently in Portugal. That's when I started reading this forum more, just to see what kind of things would be said about him and follow his development in the Premier League. I know that he did prove what I anticipated, he was way overpriced, too slow for the league and looked out of place. He ended up filling a role either as centre back or midfield last season and seems like a reliable character, so in the end, not totally disastrous, but still, very short of the required quality at this level.
Fernando always played at Porto in the 433, sitting behind two complete midfielders. With most of the top teams in Europe playing with only two midfielders in the 4231, Fernando was always looked as someone who lacked the technical ability to play in a two man midfield, pass the ball around, charge forward, being an all around player. He improved a lot over the years. He is much better on the ball now. You could see that he really tried to stand out more and more with the ball(the guy clearly was trying to show that he is more than a destroyer), he is far from Fernandinho's level driving forward, not only technically, but mainly... just lacking the experience of playing further up the pitch, being more comfortable and being able to execute and decide better. That requires experience that he never really had at Porto since he had two other central midfielders ahead of him.
I anticipate him being a regular option for the bigger games, where Pellegrini will likely field a three headed monster in midfield. Some away games as well. It will be interesting to see if he manages to establish himself quickly doing what he does best, which is... chasing everyone and making great tackles. He is a tireless player, very athletic, so the style of play in the Premier League shouldn't be a problem. I am curious to see whether he manages to push Fernandinho for a regular place in the team or maybe Yaya turns into more of a regular attacking midfielder and Silva drifts to the right. One thing is for sure, he will be a bargain. Comparing him with William Carvalho, linked with United, he is much better without the ball, more physical, faster and tenacious. Carvalho is just a smart player, with good feet and good passing range, but he is more likely to be exposed by the pace of the league than Fernando and at Sporting's current asking price, Carvalho is a bit like Mangala, great potential, but great risk.
It took a long time and 27 is an unusual age for a player to leave a league like the Portuguese for the Premier League. In the end, he will have the chance to play for one of the top teams and be challenging for titles and and be tested every week. The road might not have been straightforward, but he managed to find a good place. I'll be closely monitoring his progress. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint.