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Oleks Zinchenko - 2018/19 Performances
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I don't understand why folks seem oblivious to the fact that Mendy has yet to show a history of reliability.Not if mendy isn't avail
What? So many people on this forum said Pep wouldn't play a midfielder as a fullback, and a small minority said he would, your simply ignoring the facts here.So it's not a shock for anyone, to find Pep playing a midfielder at fullback, as you are suggesting, as we saw a whole season of it.
He was playing Leroy Sané as wingback in his first season. That also cost us a goal or two.
Sane played as a wingback less than a handful of games and it didn't work so he stopped doing it.
Neville Kneville
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What? So many people on this forum said Pep wouldn't play a midfielder as a fullback, and a small minority said he would, your simply ignoring the facts here.
Sane played as a wingback less than a handful of games and it didn't work so he stopped doing it.
Pretty much nobody said that, as they all watch football & Pep has done pretty much every strange thing possible.
He played Kolarov at cb & Sané wingback, straight away.
Agree to disagree here, as I and others remember arguing with people about this.Pretty much nobody said that, as they all watch football & Pep has done pretty much every strange thing possible.
He played Kolarov at cb & Sané wingback, straight away.
In fact I'm not even sure what your point is, that Pep does experiment with players in other positions I'm guessing? Yes that is true, I wasn't even arguing this lol.
Neville Kneville
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Agree to disagree here, as I and others remember arguing with people about this.
In fact I'm not even sure what your point is, that Pep does experiment with players in other positions I'm guessing? Yes that is true, I wasn't even arguing this lol.
That it was a huge surprise.
It wasn't. Most people expected all kinds of stuff happening.
If you want to argue that most people didn't think Zinchenko would make a fullback, that's fair enough. I still don't, he's a midfielder playing fullback to me & we are fighting through it.
Okay I understand what your argument is (we got there in a roundabout manner). Again, disagree regarding people on this forum regarding fullbacks.That it was a huge surprise.
It wasn't. Most people expected all kinds of stuff happening.
If you want to argue that most people didn't think Zinchenko would make a fullback, that's fair enough. I still don't, he's a midfielder playing fullback to me & we are fighting through it.
Zinny has done great as a fullback and I think he can only improve there, you only have to consider how well he has done in this new role and how young he is. Imagine giving him 2 more years in this role to fully master it, can be amazing.
Neville Kneville
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Okay I understand what your argument is (we got there in a roundabout manner). Again, disagree regarding people on this forum regarding fullbacks.
Zinny has done great as a fullback and I think he can only improve there, you only have to consider how well he has done in this new role and how young he is. Imagine giving him 2 more years in this role to fully master it, can be amazing.
He has done brilliantly but he has also been responsible for quite a few cockups which mainly seems to be down to his lack of appreciation of defending.
It's not impossible he could learn it, but he also lacks pace & defensive technique, even yesterday, was left easily on about 3 or 4 occasions, which Otamendi etc cleaned up.
His football skills are now coming through & rather than just knocking the ball around, he's creating stuff which is probably at a higher intelligence level than Mendy can produce, but Mendy (when fit) has that pace & power to go with a vicious cross.
I hope we don't replace him with Ben Chillwell as the only advantage I can see there is that he's bigger. He's nowhere near as good a footballer as Zinchenko & not a great defender.
But if Pep is going to sign 3 players, one of whom is a fullback, I don't see how that's possible with Zinchenko staying. We won't have squad space.
Who would you like instead?He has done brilliantly but he has also been responsible for quite a few cockups which mainly seems to be down to his lack of appreciation of defending.
It's not impossible he could learn it, but he also lacks pace & defensive technique, even yesterday, was left easily on about 3 or 4 occasions, which Otamendi etc cleaned up.
His football skills are now coming through & rather than just knocking the ball around, he's creating stuff which is probably at a higher intelligence level than Mendy can produce, but Mendy (when fit) has that pace & power to go with a vicious cross.
I hope we don't replace him with Ben Chillwell as the only advantage I can see there is that he's bigger. He's nowhere near as good a footballer as Zinchenko & not a great defender.
But if Pep is going to sign 3 players, one of whom is a fullback, I don't see how that's possible with Zinchenko staying. We won't have squad space.
Neville Kneville
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Who would you like instead?
Don't know tbh. I wanted Mendy but since his injury I think he's lost pace & am not sure he is any better than Zinchenko unless he gets it back.
I would like somebody fast, I know that.
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