Olivia’s killer guilty - Minimum of 42 years

Whilst we are talking about counterfeit stuff. For a number of years I was involved in the 'grey market' for a number of companies. I regularly had to go to the main customs/Post office facility in Coventry. Illegal drugs gets the headlines but don't ever underestimate the huge amount of money criminal gangs make from snide stuff. Manchester, mainly by Strangeways/Cheetham Hill is probably the biggest area in the uk for it.
You may not want to pay full price for your Louis Vuitton man bag but you should think about it every time there is a shooting.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
We need to get rid of the Second Amendment and tighten up legislation so bad guys don’t have access to guns!

Oh wait, Liverpool, ENGLAND, not Liverpool, Illinois, USA?!

I thought there were no guns, or gun crimes in England?!

What next, a “Today’s shooting in England thread”?!
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Christ, you got a few with that one.
 
sutty66 said:
something doesn’t add up on this at all….
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In what way? Something sounded odd that somebody would hear shooting at 10pm and open the door unless there was someone banging on the door. Even then you'd think fuck that I'm not opening the door. You'd look through a window to see what was happening. Perhaps she knew the person the gunman was chasing? Pure speculation of course but if i heard a possible violent commotion outside the last thing I would do is go to the front door.
 
paulchapo said:
In what way? Something sounded odd that somebody would hear shooting at 10pm and open the door unless there was someone banging on the door. Even then you'd think fuck that I'm not opening the door. You'd look through a window to see what was happening. Perhaps she knew the person the gunman was chasing? Pure speculation of course but if i heard a possible violent commotion outside the last thing I would do is go to the front door.
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Perhaps she didn't hear a gunshot. Perhaps just she heard an unusual noise and wondered what it was. No one is connecting her or her family to the scum that did this that I can see.

On a related note, over the weekend an Environmental Health Officer was murdered (shot) in Liverpool. Police say she was totally innocent and it was mistaken identity. This seems to be the same in that the fame were totally innocent.
The poor woman will now regret her actions for the rest of her life but in all honesty, they were perfectly normal actions hindsight is sometimes total shit.
 
Blue Mist said:
Perhaps she didn't hear a gunshot. Perhaps just she heard an unusual noise and wondered what it was. No one is connecting her or her family to the scum that did this that I can see.

On a related note, over the weekend an Environmental Health Officer was murdered (shot) in Liverpool. Police say she was totally innocent and it was mistaken identity. This seems to be the same in that the fame were totally innocent.
The poor woman will now regret her actions for the rest of her life but in all honesty, they were perfectly normal actions hindsight is sometimes total shit.
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I know mate but you just don't open the door at 10pm for any reason, as you say hindsight is shit but if you live in a major City you mind your business or snoop from a window to see what's happening. It sounds like she was a woman on her own too.

The gloves need to come off to smash all these scumbags and the drug dealing gangs. Fucking harass them to death and give them long sentences when caught.
 
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