Olivia’s killer guilty - Minimum of 42 years

[cleavers]

if i heard a possible violent commotion outside the last thing I would do is go to the front door.

Exactly what I said to the missus earlier.

Luckily I live in a third floor flat, so can't "open the gront door", but I wouldn't have gone out on the balcony either if I thought there were gunshots outside, at least not until it stopped.

Very sad though, and that mum who opened the door is going to have a really hard time thinking of why she opened the door.

 

[paulchapo]

Exactly what I said to the missus earlier.

Luckily I live in a third floor flat, so can't "open the gront door", but I wouldn't have gone out on the balcony either if I thought there were gunshots outside, at least not until it stopped.

Very sad though, and that mum who opened the door is going to have a really hard time thinking of why she opened the door.

It's odd mate, especially if alone with a daughter. Anybody who grows up in a tough City are streetwise. A gun bring fired is loud, usually distinctive and I would guess there was shouting too. All conjecture of course it was a strange decision to open the door, even more so as that poor young woman had been shot dead in the same City only days earlier.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Fucking hell, are certain people blaming the mum for being nosey? Get a fucking grip you curtain twitchers.

Absolutely shocking but not so for this country that has allowed these things to happen.

Can you imagine this for just opening your door?

 

[BimboBob]

I'm 53 and yes those days seem long gone.
I walk my 2 dogs around some woods in Bury which can be full of idiots at weekend evenings, but seeing as my dogs are German Shepherds and are nails I don't seem to get any mither

Don't they get in the way of the dogging?

 

[paulchapo]

Fucking hell, are certain people blaming the mum for being nosey? Get a fucking grip you curtain twitchers.

Absolutely shocking but not so for this country that has allowed these things to happen.

Can you imagine this for just opening your door?

Nobody is actually blaming her but look it wasn't the wisest decision in the world was it? In a safe world you'd be able to leave your door unlocked, walk anywhere you like and at anytime day or night. We don't though as we are fearful of what could happen. The same as hearing gunshots or a commotion at 10pm at night, you are bloody careful and/or call the old bill.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

According to the Daily Fail, the men were 100 yards from the house, and the guy being chased saw the light once she opened the door and ran in. So she must’ve seen them coming towards the house but only shut the door when the gunman reached it

 

[paulchapo]

exactly i think she knew the 35yo and. opened door to him because abit random to open door same moment he’s near house?! but same 35yo isn’t named or know which hospital he’s at???!

Well they wouldn't name which hospital for fear of someone going to finish him off.

 

[paulchapo]

According to the Daily Fail, the men were 100 yards from the house, and the guy being chased saw the light once she opened the door and ran in. So she must’ve seen them coming towards the house but only shut the door when the gunman reached it

Tragic whatever happened but that door would have been slammed shut sharpish, mind you people often freeze when confronted with something violent or unusual.

Scousers are more rooted in the "Don't grass" culture than most other people I know and you'd think on that basis alone you'd keep your door shut and head down. Sadly it's done now.

 

[cleavers]

Fucking hell, are certain people blaming the mum for being nosey?

If I heard what I thought was gun shots, I might (or might not) look out of the window, but I wouldn't go and open the door to see what was going on, that's not blaming her, it's simple common sense imho.

 

[paulchapo]

If I heard what I thought was gun shots, I might (or might not) look out of the window, but I wouldn't go and open the door to see what was going on, that's not blaming her, it's simple common sense imho.

Nobody brought up in a major City would. Nobody would also want to draw attention to themselves by opening a door at the sound of gunshots/confrontation outside for fear of becoming a target themselves.