Opposition view: Arsenal

If there's one person or group of people to blame for high prices it's probably the Glazers. They perfected the art of increasing prices steadily to the point where demand only just meets supply.

But there's also no doubt that Arsenal played a full part in everything that modern football has become. Failure to recognise this is self-delusion at its worst. And Danny Fiszman was Arsenal's Sheikh Mansour 20 years ago.
 
Balti said:
don't recall arse fans complaining when russias richest man joined the club

hypocrites


If you'd read my earlier post, you might not have said that. It's because there are 2 sugar daddies that the prices have gone up so much. I stated that earlier.

moomba said:
You say that you could afford high wages because you earned it by winning things.

One of the reasons you won things was because businessman put their own money into your club to make it better.

Selective memory or hypocrisy?

None of our directors have put their own money in in the last 30 years. Hill-Wood was bragging about it not so long ago. I'm not old enough to remember those days. Sorry.
 
Phillythekid said:
None of our directors have put their own money in in the last 30 years. Hill-Wood was bragging about it not so long ago. I'm not old enough to remember those days. Sorry.
The story is that Danny Fiszman put in £50m in 1994 (in return for shares I think) which funded Rioch then Wenger. Players like Bergkamp, Platt, Vieira, Overmars & Petit were all bought out of that money. Around that time you were usually mid-table and not much better than us. That money made you successful.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Phillythekid said:
None of our directors have put their own money in in the last 30 years. Hill-Wood was bragging about it not so long ago. I'm not old enough to remember those days. Sorry.
The story is that Danny Fiszman put in £50m in 1994 (in return for shares I think) which funded Rioch then Wenger. Players like Bergkamp, Platt, Vieira, Overmars & Petit were all bought out of that money. Around that time you were usually mid-table and not much better than us. That money made you successful.

Well, if true, I stand corrected.
That's the problem with the Arsenalin general really.
Everyone has a different version of events, fans included! The board/staff constantly give us spiel and bs. Hill-Wood has boasted recently about none of the board spending their own money. Then I hear -yet another- version of events over here!
Never know who to believe. Think that's why I came here. Get some normal conversation from people with a bit more perspective!!
Gooner boards have become more and more retarded as in-fighting between factions of fans gets more intense!
Guess, that's why I try to turn a blind eye and just go to enjoy the games. Even that is becoming more frustrating as our team has deteriorated! Knowing that money is in the bank and we're buying duds like Gervinho 5 heads and Squillachi!! WTF?!
Anyways, I got to go.
Hope you enjoy the game. Not too much obviously. ;-)
 
Balti said:
Phillythekid said:
tbf, I'd done no research into figures, and i've not got the greatest memory! Plucked that figure out me proverbial. Knew you guys could correct me, so couldn't be bothered to google it.
Still, i think some people are bitter that the richest man in the world wanted a new toy and chose you guys. I can't deny that.
We're also bitter that we have to pay so much to even pretend to keep up (i know, we're not even keeping up tbh), when you guys are subsidised by a rich man paying proper season ticket prices and winning silver to boot. You'd be bitter if you were paying more than Utd fans if they were winning all the trophies too!
Mansour knew he wasn't buying into the richest fan base going (no offence, but you guys don't have to live with London prices, most of you actually live in Manchester, unlike Utd fans). So you don't have any of this capitalist $hit we're to! Be appy that we're the frustrated ones!!

don't recall arse fans complaining when russias richest man joined the club

hypocrites

Bit harsh there imo, he's only being realistic in that post. Tbh it's refreshing to see a few Arsenal fans in here who seem to have a grasp on reality!
 
Berkovic_blue said:
Tbh it's refreshing to see a few Arsenal fans in here who seem to have a grasp on reality!
It is. Then there's the ones like this one who sent me the following pm. We don't normally publish pm's but this one deserved an airing as it shows a lot of them up for what they are.
It's a well written piece. boy you City fans since you became an offshoot of an asset raping oil monkey have changed. Used to be likeable. You know as well as I do every bit of your success is down to artificial money, and you know as well as i do that when you buy one flop after the other on £150k a week, that forces up the wages of other clubs - what don;t you understand you moron?

and as for Arsenal spending less than Spurs, our wage bill is £50m a season higher. Get your blinkers off and understand that it's that sand monkey and the Russian crook at Chelsea that are ruining football

tw-at

What was it they were saying about not being able to buy class?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Berkovic_blue said:
Tbh it's refreshing to see a few Arsenal fans in here who seem to have a grasp on reality!
It is. Then there's the ones like this one who sent me the following pm. We don't normally publish pm's but this one deserved an airing as it shows a lot of them up for what they are.
It's a well written piece. boy you City fans since you became an offshoot of an asset raping oil monkey have changed. Used to be likeable. You know as well as I do every bit of your success is down to artificial money, and you know as well as i do that when you buy one flop after the other on £150k a week, that forces up the wages of other clubs - what don;t you understand you moron?

and as for Arsenal spending less than Spurs, our wage bill is £50m a season higher. Get your blinkers off and understand that it's that sand monkey and the Russian crook at Chelsea that are ruining football

tw-at

What was it they were saying about not being able to buy class?


lol, never mind the fact that Arsenal DO have significant money in the bank to spend if they want!
But Arsene knows doesn't he?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Berkovic_blue said:
Tbh it's refreshing to see a few Arsenal fans in here who seem to have a grasp on reality!
It is. Then there's the ones like this one who sent me the following pm. We don't normally publish pm's but this one deserved an airing as it shows a lot of them up for what they are.
It's a well written piece. boy you City fans since you became an offshoot of an asset raping oil monkey have changed. Used to be likeable. You know as well as I do every bit of your success is down to artificial money, and you know as well as i do that when you buy one flop after the other on £150k a week, that forces up the wages of other clubs - what don;t you understand you moron?

and as for Arsenal spending less than Spurs, our wage bill is £50m a season higher. Get your blinkers off and understand that it's that sand monkey and the Russian crook at Chelsea that are ruining football

tw-at

What was it they were saying about not being able to buy class?

Visual metaphor time it is then:
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fanscity.gif
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Berkovic_blue said:
Tbh it's refreshing to see a few Arsenal fans in here who seem to have a grasp on reality!
It is. Then there's the ones like this one who sent me the following pm. We don't normally publish pm's but this one deserved an airing as it shows a lot of them up for what they are.
It's a well written piece. boy you City fans since you became an offshoot of an asset raping oil monkey have changed. Used to be likeable. You know as well as I do every bit of your success is down to artificial money, and you know as well as i do that when you buy one flop after the other on £150k a week, that forces up the wages of other clubs - what don;t you understand you moron?

and as for Arsenal spending less than Spurs, our wage bill is £50m a season higher. Get your blinkers off and understand that it's that sand monkey and the Russian crook at Chelsea that are ruining football

tw-at

What was it they were saying about not being able to buy class?


Fucking, "sand monkey" and "asset raping oil monkey".

I take it that it has been banned?.
 

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