Oscar Pistorius

didactic said:
ChrisNUFC said:
It is interesting how over here no specifics of a case can be discussed incase it prejudices the trial, yet in this case, it seems the details are very much in the public domain. I understand different Countries have different systems etc. but this seems a fundamental difference to me.

N sergiokun the bail hearing has been adjourned until tomorrow now.

That is because it is not a jury system. In countries where a jury is used the aim is to prevent public opinion being swayed unfairly.

-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:10 pm --

bluetrue said:
didactic said:
There is a lot of information that has come out and the prosecutions case seems very, very solid. Add the witness testimony then I have a right to come to my conclusion. I remember you were defending Lance Armstrong too these celebs are not saints.

Judging by this morning's cross-examination of Botha, the prosecution's case is anything but solid. In fact it's very, very shaky.

No it is not, list the reasons why you say it is shaky and I show you why it is not.

Too many to name. But a few:

'Witness' hearing screaming, who turns out to be 300m-600m away and couldn't confirm who was screaming.

Contamination of crime scene.

Failure to check if a phone call had been made to paramedics.

Failure to check on the 'testosterone' or read the full label.
 
Cheers for the reply Dids didn't know that.<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:18 pm --<br /><br />
bluetrue said:
didactic said:
ChrisNUFC said:
It is interesting how over here no specifics of a case can be discussed incase it prejudices the trial, yet in this case, it seems the details are very much in the public domain. I understand different Countries have different systems etc. but this seems a fundamental difference to me.

N sergiokun the bail hearing has been adjourned until tomorrow now.

That is because it is not a jury system. In countries where a jury is used the aim is to prevent public opinion being swayed unfairly.

-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:10 pm --

bluetrue said:
Judging by this morning's cross-examination of Botha, the prosecution's case is anything but solid. In fact it's very, very shaky.

No it is not, list the reasons why you say it is shaky and I show you why it is not.

Too many to name. But a few:

'Witness' hearing screaming, who turns out to be 300m-600m away and couldn't confirm who was screaming.

Contamination of crime scene.

Failure to check if a phone call had been made to paramedics.

Failure to check on the 'testosterone' or read the full label.

Think the defence also asked Botha if the police had found any evidence at the scene that contradicted Pistorius's version of events and he said No.
 
From what I've heard, it's very rare to get bail on a schedule 6 offence (which pre-meditated murder is) in SA and those that do have to surrender their passport, are restricted to only certain areas in their home town and have to wear a tag.

Although it wouldn't surprsie me if Pistorious isn't, by now, fully aware of all the countries which DON'T currently have an extradition treaty with SA.
 
The Flash said:
From what I've heard, it's very rare to get bail on a schedule 6 offence (which pre-meditated murder is) in SA and those that do have to surrender their passport, are restricted to only certain areas in their home town and have to wear a tag.

Although it wouldn't surprsie me if Pistorious isn't, by now, fully aware of all the countries which DON'T currently have an extradition treaty with SA.

From what I understand, bail is now looking very likely. I feel he'd struggle to leave the country to be honest. Too recognisable.<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:25 pm --<br /><br />
ChrisNUFC said:
Cheers for the reply Dids didn't know that.

-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:18 pm --

bluetrue said:
didactic said:
That is because it is not a jury system. In countries where a jury is used the aim is to prevent public opinion being swayed unfairly.

-- Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:10 pm --



No it is not, list the reasons why you say it is shaky and I show you why it is not.

Too many to name. But a few:

'Witness' hearing screaming, who turns out to be 300m-600m away and couldn't confirm who was screaming.

Contamination of crime scene.

Failure to check if a phone call had been made to paramedics.

Failure to check on the 'testosterone' or read the full label.

Think the defence also asked Botha if the police had found any evidence at the scene that contradicted Pistorius's version of events and he said No.

Forgot that one! For the investigating officer to have to admit he has no evidence to contradict Oscar Pistorius's version of events is very telling.
 
The Flash said:
From what I've heard, it's very rare to get bail on a schedule 6 offence (which pre-meditated murder is) in SA and those that do have to surrender their passport, are restricted to only certain areas in their home town and have to wear a tag.

Although it wouldn't surprsie me if Pistorious isn't, by now, fully aware of all the countries which DON'T currently have an extradition treaty with SA.

The tag isn't going to stay on his ankle is it?
 
blueinsa said:
The Flash said:
From what I've heard, it's very rare to get bail on a schedule 6 offence (which pre-meditated murder is) in SA and those that do have to surrender their passport, are restricted to only certain areas in their home town and have to wear a tag.

Although it wouldn't surprsie me if Pistorious isn't, by now, fully aware of all the countries which DON'T currently have an extradition treaty with SA.

The tag isn't going to stay on his ankle is it?

Cruel. But at least they'll know the whereabouts of his prosthetic leg at all times.
 
ChrisNUFC said:
It is interesting how over here no specifics of a case can be discussed incase it prejudices the trial, yet in this case, it seems the details are very much in the public domain. I understand different Countries have different systems etc. but this seems a fundamental difference to me.

N sergiokun the bail hearing has been adjourned until tomorrow now.



Cheers Chris can't see him getting bail but you never no
 

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