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[theres only one carlito]

Will I have to give my Blue Peter badge back?

 

[kippax_blueboy]

The Ship Canal not Slave Ships

 

[SebastianBlue]

History shows that the weak got destroyed, empire building and alliances on whatever scale were the only way to prevent this until very recently. What Britain did was understandable for that period of time, so no amount of earnestly studying the past will fix that because you will be learning about things whilst holding modern values. It's all terrible of course, but there's absolutely no way in knowing if our terror would be worse than the alternative because without the British there's sure as something else in its place for that period of time.

We’ll have to simply disagree on your (or my) premise, as any real response would take this well outside the confines of this thread and football-related forum.

I will say, though, that my post (and my stance) is based on what was actually done and the real, continuing consequences of it, not an impossible analysis of whether what was done was “better or worse” than some unknowable alternative history. And, of course, to avoid glorifying atrocities and ongoing exploitation as part of some delusional notion of “civilising the world”, which seems to be the main fallback argument for those that wish not to confront our history.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Having had a brew and a think about it, why don't we change it to Pete the badge?

 

[hilts]

There is not a day that goes by where I don't feel really bad about something someone else did hundreds of years ago.

Replace the ship with a candle please.

 

[bluejon]

Having had a brew and a think about it, why don't we change it to Pete the badge?

Or Jackie's tits.

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

Oh dear, just noticed David Conn job‘s, club of convenience FC United or FC Sulky bastards also has the so called ship of shame.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Get to fuck.

My ancestors had fuck all to do with slavery. They were skint and cannon fodder or worked down mines, on ships (no slaves) and up chimneys.

Wankers.....the badge stays

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Or Jackie's tits.

Or both.

 

[Corky]

The Ship Canal not Slave Ships

It predates the ship canal by decades, and the ship Canal is a Trafford/Salford thing.