Our Club is changing

[Prestwich_Blue]

I wasn't aware that mcfcLiam was personally vetting supporters to make sure they're manc enough to sit in the same stadium as him. I'd better submit my papers to him so he can decide how much of a fan I am.

As long as one of your grandparents was born in Manchester you should be OK.

 

[mcfcliam]

Let me know how you feel when Eastlands is heaving with these kind of supporters.

Until then, you lot just keep attacking.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Is it only "Chinese" who don't celebrate when Man.City score? Do no "Chinese" ever celebrate when Man.City score?

There seems to be an assumption amongst some that the only genuine football fans are working class, and even that the only good ones are "white" working class. And that anyone else who takes any interest in any club must be a "glory hunter" - either a camcorder obsessed "Chinese", or a prawn-sandwich eating middle-class "prick".

I've admitted that I'm not a rabid Man.City fan, but I have long had a "soft spot" for Man.City. The reasons for that are the very opposite of "glory-hunting".

Apart from AFC Wimbledon, I haven't any reason for strong allegiance to any other club. However I have generally supported some teams for one or both of two reasons. I tend to support the "underdog", and I would rather support a team playing attractive skilful football, than one playing in a negative thuggish way.

The great Man.City team of the mid- and late-60s filled both conditions. They played attractive skilful football, and, compared to Man.U., Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton (a big club then) they were definitely "underdogs".

Of course, since the arrival of the Sheikhs, Man.City no longer have the mantle of underdogs - so there is no longer any reason for sympathy for them on that score. But in compensation, I can see being formed a team which will probably be one of the most skilful and attractive teams to ever grace the English leagues. It will be great if this team fulfils its potential, and if such players as Silva, Aguero etc. get the acclaim their skills deserve.

As for camcorders, unless someone, "Chinese" or not, is using one which blocks the views of others, what is the problem? I don't have a camcorder, nor even a camera - but if I, and many people who haven't been at a match want to see bits of it on Youtube etc., we can only do so if someone is recording it.

As I am grateful to so many people who have put up videos on the internet, I was considering getting a video camera so I could repay something of the debt I feel I owe them. However, comments on this thread have reminded me of the hidden hostility of some (many?) at the very sight of an "asian" or "Chinese" with a camera or camcorder, so I am not sure I could ever use one in public without feeling embarrassed.

Besides being castigated as gloryseekers the other term of virtual abuse that is handed out about Chinese or asian looking people is that they are "tourists". It seems that only white Britons should be permitted to be tourists - as so many are in other parts of the world.

I have lived in this country since 1948 - all but the first two years of my life. I have been attending football matches since 1964, although the expense now means I can't attend that frequently recently. I thank the number of City fans who have been posting expressing sympathy after my post in this thread. I am quite prepared to be assured that they represent a decent majority of the Man.City fans.

However, I am a little annoyed at the frequency with which the presence of "Chinese" people at football matches is criticised on various football forums - especially as I am sure that most of the people so posting have lived in this country for a much shorter time than I have - and I suspect that I actually know a great deal more about the history and culture of this country - and of its football teams - than most of them do.

Fair play to you mate and it was by no means a knock at you, I am Scottish and my wife is Filipina, she has just started watching football this year so would be classed as a new fan.

But jumps up and down and gets so excited about the team, players, especially Aguerro ;)

I am obsessed with City so supporting City was a decision made by me on her behalf but she has really taken to it.

The point I was making was the more the merrier but get behind the team and enjoy the game! CTWD

Oh right bringing 'the wifes' into it are we....i'll have you know my wife has been a staunch city fan ever since we have been together, she might be from Stoke-on-Trent but she claps louder and longer than any city fan during matches....the extra fingers definately help.

;)

 

[Leyth Blue]

There was a whole row of Spanish teenagers in front of us on Saturday, including one in a "Nasri" shirt!?!?! Although a couple of them spent most of the match chewing the face off each other!!!

There were also about 3 rows full of young lads from a touring Australian high school rugby team and a soccer team from the Australian Institute of Sport - I thought they would be there to cheer on Cahill but they never did - the adults with them seemed dead keen on the game but most of the lads were dicking around for 90 minutes.

 

[mcfcliam]

As LoveCity said, there's still a very Mancunian feel about the club and when we do finally lose that feel, then it's time to fuck off.

It pains me to say it but I'd rather watch it in the pub than watch it surrounded by a bunch of pricks who don't belong at a football match...kind of like some of the freaks that turn up to the swamp every week.

I remember going to Maine Road as a kid and being surrounded by working class people with a real passion for the club and that's what we want, proper supporters filling the ground every week instead of dicks who choose City as a lifestyle choice.

It's just not a 'City thing' to have a ground full of tourists with cameras and people just there for the day out with no passion whatsoever for MCFC.

I await the 'the more the merrier', 'embrace it' and 'we need them to move forward' bullshit cliches but I stand by my opinion on this and always will.

City, City ra ra ra.

using your logic, I assume you would rather the team and owner be Mancunians and MAYBE playing and surviving in the Blue Square league (but you'd be proud! You're a blue collar worker!) rather than the owner and chairman being from the Middle East and the teams best players coming from Belgium, Argentina, Spain, Bosnia, and France.

just a shocker that post.

Cliched shite.

I didn't mention where people are from either, so i don't know why you're bringing Mancunians and nationalities into it.

I don't give a fuck whether you're from Beswick or fucking Timbuktu...it's the way you feel about City and the atmosphere will suffer even more with half interested tourists with more interest in filming the game than getting behind the team.

 

[Andouble]

there are 30,000 more seats for 'those kind of supporters' at Old Trafford than at Eastlands. We don't have 0.5% the amount of 'those kind of supporters' and don't sell out Champions League games.

 

[Blue Theatre]

As LoveCity said, there's still a very Mancunian feel about the club and when we do finally lose that feel, then it's time to fuck off.

It pains me to say it but I'd rather watch it in the pub than watch it surrounded by a bunch of pricks who don't belong at a football match...kind of like some of the freaks that turn up to the swamp every week.

I remember going to Maine Road as a kid and being surrounded by working class people with a real passion for the club and that's what we want, proper supporters filling the ground every week instead of dicks who choose City as a lifestyle choice.

It's just not a 'City thing' to have a ground full of tourists with cameras and people just there for the day out with no passion whatsoever for MCFC.

I await the 'the more the merrier', 'embrace it' and 'we need them to move forward' bullshit cliches but I stand by my opinion on this and always will.

City, City ra ra ra.

All I can say is: 'the more the merrier' ... I think we should all embrace it ... and don't forget that we need them to move forward.

 

[didactic]

As LoveCity said, there's still a very Mancunian feel about the club and when we do finally lose that feel, then it's time to fuck off.

It pains me to say it but I'd rather watch it in the pub than watch it surrounded by a bunch of pricks who don't belong at a football match...kind of like some of the freaks that turn up to the swamp every week.

I remember going to Maine Road as a kid and being surrounded by working class people with a real passion for the club and that's what we want, proper supporters filling the ground every week instead of dicks who choose City as a lifestyle choice.

It's just not a 'City thing' to have a ground full of tourists with cameras and people just there for the day out with no passion whatsoever for MCFC.

I await the 'the more the merrier', 'embrace it' and 'we need them to move forward' bullshit cliches but I stand by my opinion on this and always will.

City, City ra ra ra.

Im sure the owners and these players from all around the globe regret ever signing up for the club or investing money since it offends you so much. Those of us who no longer live in Manchester and are no longer working class apologise and shall immediately disassociate ourselves from "your" club.

You would rather we were a non league club as long as the players and managers were people you knew from the local area??. Strange logic and I hate to break it to you but some random act of fate that allowed you to be born in a particular post code does not give you more rights than a camel riding billionaire from the middle east to claim love for the club.

This sort of rubbish elitism needs to stop, good for the guys who have been going to games for 40 years before some of us were born but the club is a huge international project now. Like I mentioned earlier if you dont like it round up all the other disgrunted "supporters" pool together your working class wages and savings and invest in a team of your choice. None of you own Manchester City, will all due respect.

 

[Mugatu]

Let me know how you feel when Eastlands is heaving with these kind of supporters.

Until then, you lot just keep attacking.

Which, the foreign looking lads, or the ones in the zany wigs? Which ones do you reserve the most hate for? Are the zany wigs from Manchester? Do they sing? We need answers.

 

[mcfcliam]

As LoveCity said, there's still a very Mancunian feel about the club and when we do finally lose that feel, then it's time to fuck off.

It pains me to say it but I'd rather watch it in the pub than watch it surrounded by a bunch of pricks who don't belong at a football match...kind of like some of the freaks that turn up to the swamp every week.

I remember going to Maine Road as a kid and being surrounded by working class people with a real passion for the club and that's what we want, proper supporters filling the ground every week instead of dicks who choose City as a lifestyle choice.

It's just not a 'City thing' to have a ground full of tourists with cameras and people just there for the day out with no passion whatsoever for MCFC.

I await the 'the more the merrier', 'embrace it' and 'we need them to move forward' bullshit cliches but I stand by my opinion on this and always will.

City, City ra ra ra.

Im sure the owners and these players from all around the globe regret ever signing up for the club or investing money since it offends you so much. Those of us who no longer live in Manchester and are no longer working class apologise and shall immediately disassociate ourselves from "your" club.

You would rather we were a non league club as long as the players and managers were people you knew from the local area??. Strange logic and I hate to break it to you but some random act of fate that allowed you to be born in a particular post code does not give you more rights than a camel riding billionaire from the middle east to claim love for the club.

This sort of rubbish elitism needs to stop, good for the guys who have been going to games for 40 years before some of us were born but the club is a huge international project now. Like I mentioned earlier if you dont like it round up all the other disgrunted "supporters" pool together your working class wages and savings and invest in a team of your choice. None of you own Manchester City, will all due respect.

WHEN. THE. FUCK. DID. I. SAY. THAT.

Fuck me, you're all complete idiots...read my fucking post.

I never mentioned where people are from!!!!!!!!!