Paedophilia within the game/City launch redress scheme

I've written about being disillusioned with The Athletic and cancelling my subscription, but I paid straight up for a year at a big discount and still have access. I've therefore read Danny Taylor's article, linked to above, about Gary Cliffe, who was in the City youth system when abused by Bennell. while it's quite harrowing in many ways at least it gives grounds for encouragement in terms of the way the club is dealing with the matter. I've also slated a wide range of football journalists recently but think that Taylor is due great credit for his work on this subject going back to 2016.

Anyway, I agree with the post above: we can't undo what was done but it's vital that we fully acknowledge the wrongs that the club perpetrated in the past, make a genuine apology for them and seek to atone for it as best we can (while being aware that we'll never be able to do enough). It sounds as though that's what the club is doing. I asked Danny a while back on Twitter when the findings of City's inquiry might become known, and he said it could take some time depending on whether Bennell faces another trial for offences which have come to light more recently. However, he thought it would happen this year.

It's obvious that the findings, whenever they're made public, are going to be extremely damning. The piece quotes Simon Pearce as saying that City "will be rightly smashed" and, while it may be better not to name names at this stage, I suspect that some individual reputations (including those of one or two of people who are regarded as club stalwarts) may be shredded in addition to crass institutional failings being laid bare.

In particular, it will be interesting to find out the identity of the City figure named by Cliffe when giving evidence at Bennell's trial as someone who probably had knowledge of the abuse. This person must still be alive, or at least must have been alive after the start of City's inquiry into historic abuse by people linked to the club, because Taylor lets us know that Cliffe was somewhat shaken by finding out that the person in question “will not engage” with the club on this matter.

We should probably also note that the report states there are some Bennell victims who "are taking civil action and have opted not to accept City’s terms". Maybe, then, we should hold fire and wait until we have full information before assessing whether or not the modern MCFC is absolutely beyond reproach for its reaction to events in the here and now. But in the meantime, I take encouragement from the fact that Taylor clearly views our actions positively, especially given his background working on the story and building close relationships with several of the men abused.

As someone with a major emotional investment in this club, I find myself absolutely horrified that MCFC behaved in a way that facilitated vile large-scale abuse by a predatory paedophile such as Bennell. It matters greatly to me that we should now handle the matter unimpeachably. I thus find it a positive for Taylor to call Cliffe a "friend" and then write the following about his friend's recent dealings with the club:

Ultimately, though, Cliffe feels like he has been “welcomed back as part of the City family”. That matters after so many years of feeling betrayed and let down. It was the old City, not the later version, that failed him so badly and, though he would be entitled to hold a permanent grudge against the former regime, the apology has encouraged him to think there is a human side to the modern operation.

Absolutely appalling and heart breaking what that dirty bastard Bennel did to children and was allowed to get away with for donkey's years. Many, many people in football and our club knew what was going on. Sadly, for some of those lads, no longer with us, due to taking their own lives, and those still bearing the scars throughout their daily lives I have nothing but admiration for their courage in speaking out but also heartbreak at what they had to go through and those taking their lives. Along with Bennell, I feel others were and are culpable in the cover up just like the catholic church, the BBC, the Church of England, social services, the police forces up and down the country that turned a blind eye and didn't believe children, shame on them all.

I have a story from a good friend of mine that told me of the time his son, who did eventually play professionally was invited to go to a football tournament in Wales with Bennell and othes, but his Dad wanted to know the arrangements and then said he would go too with his lad and stay. Guess what, Bennell decided he didn't want his lad at the tournament. Great to have hindsight isn't it. Good on the new City for acknowledging the 'evil sins of the past' but I am sure those we may hold in some esteem at the club, still there or no longer there and maybe passed shall we say, did and hid, brushed under the carpet for no other reason than protecting themselves and the club. Shameful.
 
I've written about being disillusioned with The Athletic and cancelling my subscription, but I paid straight up for a year at a big discount and still have access. I've therefore read Danny Taylor's article, linked to above, about Gary Cliffe, who was in the City youth system when abused by Bennell. While it's quite harrowing in many ways at least it gives grounds for encouragement in terms of the way the club is dealing with the matter. I've also slated a wide range of football journalists recently but think that Taylor is due great credit for his work on this subject going back to 2016.

Anyway, I agree with the post above: we can't undo what was done but it's vital that we fully acknowledge the wrongs that the club perpetrated in the past, make a genuine apology for them and seek to atone for it as best we can (while being aware that we'll never be able to do enough). It sounds as though that's what the club is doing. I asked Danny a while back on Twitter when the findings of City's inquiry might become known, and he said it could take some time depending on whether Bennell faces another trial for offences which have come to light more recently. However, he thought it would happen this year.

It's obvious that the findings, whenever they're made public, are going to be extremely damning. The piece quotes Simon Pearce as saying that City "will be rightly smashed" and, while it may be better not to name names at this stage, I suspect that some individual reputations (including those of one or two of people who are regarded as club stalwarts) may be shredded in addition to crass institutional failings being laid bare.

In particular, it will be interesting to find out the identity of the City figure named by Cliffe when giving evidence at Bennell's trial as someone who probably had knowledge of the abuse. This person must still be alive, or at least must have been alive after the start of City's inquiry into historic abuse by people linked to the club, because Taylor lets us know that Cliffe was somewhat shaken by finding out that the person in question “will not engage” with the club on this matter.

We should probably also note that the report states there are some Bennell victims who "are taking civil action and have opted not to accept City’s terms". Maybe, then, we should hold fire and wait until we have full information before assessing whether or not the modern MCFC is absolutely beyond reproach for its reaction to events in the here and now. But in the meantime, I take encouragement from the fact that Taylor clearly views our actions positively, especially given his background working on the story and building close relationships with several of the men abused.

As someone with a major emotional investment in this club, I find myself absolutely horrified that MCFC behaved in a way that facilitated vile large-scale abuse by a predatory paedophile such as Bennell. It matters greatly to me that we should now handle the matter unimpeachably. I thus find it a positive for Taylor to call Cliffe a "friend" and then write the following about his friend's recent dealings with the club:

Ultimately, though, Cliffe feels like he has been “welcomed back as part of the City family”. That matters after so many years of feeling betrayed and let down. It was the old City, not the later version, that failed him so badly and, though he would be entitled to hold a permanent grudge against the former regime, the apology has encouraged him to think there is a human side to the modern operation.
Thanks for that post. It gives some reassurance that the club is going about this in the right way. Sounds like a great deal more to come though.
 
Paul Stewart spoke at the Mid Cheshire branch of the OSC about the abuse he sufferered and how parents entrust their kids in innocent good faith into the hands of these perverts. I found it very moving.
City have done the decent thing with this scheme taking responsibility for the actions of Bennell when it is arguable he was not employed by the club at the relevant times.
If there is any truth in the six figure settlements, these figures are well above the damages awarded by courts in similar cases.
I am proud of the way the club has dealt with this historical abuse. Unfortunately certain people in the media cannot give us any credit on or off the field.
It should be noted that it might be Crewe's insurers and their solicitors denying liability. The insurers will be the ones who pay out compensation and costs so often dictate what happens.
 
The families of the young aspiring City players treated “Benny “ like royalty and had no idea what he was up to. If there were people who knew what this scumbag was up to (and I’m not talking about the terrified victims) and did nothing, they should be hung out to dry.
 
I work(or did before the lock-down!)close to the back of the old BBC location on Oxford Rd and every now and then I ponder what working in HR at the BBC must have been like in the 80s! The bottom line is what's now coming to light is the fact that society as a whole simply didn't give a toss for the welfare of children. That's not a defense of City or anyone else, I hope those that have suffered are able to get some kind of closure and if that's via financial settlement then good luck to them.
 
I have just replied to the awful piece by ian attwood, "Arsenal untold"
Reads like City have refused co operation in the process.
 
I have just replied to the awful piece by ian attwood, "Arsenal untold"
Reads like City have refused co operation in the process.
Although it's down to (as opposed to up to) Attwood's usual level I didn't read it as such, he does seem annoyed that it's not front page news.
 
Although it's down to (as opposed to up to) Attwood's usual level I didn't read it as such, he does seem annoyed that it's not front page news.

Maybe I am prejudiced,why would he like it to be front page news. I have been involved in the process and I suppose now there is a class action, coverage will be restricted, and closure for those not involved in the class action will be as far away as ever.
It will now drag on for years and the legal firms will be the winners.
 

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