El Ingeniero de Noruega said:I dont understand why ppl talk about pelle has to go. Its just one game today that we were unlycky. Palace is flying at the mom. Victory against scum next week and we still in it. Cant sack a manager just because we dont win every game. Look scum have spent 150m£ and they just level with us. They not even near chavski. Relax ppl. New faces inn this summer dzeko out, bony in form things will be back at normal next season. There is no solution to sack manager. Who would take a bob where they know they only get two years in the hot seat. No big managers avail. anyway that can do any better. Sitting with a feeling that key players are out of form, and tired. Get the 2nd place this season and prepare good for next season.
I thought Fernandhino was our best player, Dzeko our worst, closely followed by Sagna.GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:Silva, Kompany, Aguero (& Milner when given the chance) apart, the rest just haven't got the guts to stand up and be counted when the opposition get stuck in
Games, this season, against Burnley, Liverpool, Stoke, & Middlesborough are just four examples that spring to mind instantly.
Let's hope we never see Dzeko or Navas in a City shirt again. Both have been absolutely appalling, not just tonight, but all season
david whites spike said:I can understand the defensive changes I really can.zabbas travelling and personal bollocks and MDM's experience blah blah ******* blah but to persist with dzeko and navas is absolute criminal.
Anyone else find theirselves shouting at the players not to pass it them??
Must be me :-(
Worst performance in a city shirt from dzeko tonight.
I'm technically better than him.true story.
r.soleofsalford said:is there anyone in this entire forum who though having two up front with navas and clichy trying and failing to supply them was the right thing to do.
we should of started with milner and played one up front, and nasri instead of navas.
sack him now and put paddy in charge with brian kidd.
Paul_Powers_Tash said:The stats tell the full story. We dominated every one of them apart from the only one that mattered,
The truth is that this season we look like a group of talented players, thrown together and given a football and told to go and work it out, The players are good enough to keep the ball and thus have the lions share of possession, corners etc but against well organised teams we cant make our superior skills and stats count.
For people scratching their heads let me let you into a little secret. Teams win leagues not individuals, and teams are created on the training ground by the manager. Teams play in certain ways that maximise the opportunity at that particular time/situation and minimise the threat. This is done by group habit and not individual choice. Group habits are built, refined and ingrained on the training pitch by a manager with vision who knows what he is doing..
When Mancini took over he upset Tevez, Bellend and co because he made them train and practice without a football. He drilled it into the players where he expected them to be and what he expected them to do in given situations. These drills were designed to inflict the maximum damage on the opposition dependent of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses while minimising the oppositions potential to hurt us. Only when they understood this did he give the players a ball to play with.
This is nothing new or revolutionary but is an absolute per-requisite if you want to win the highest honors in the game.
What we are seeing from Pellegrini is absolutely not this. There is no game plan uniquely devised to maximise the tools/players at the managers disposal considering the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition. There is no preset, co-ordinated patterns of play to create maximum havoc in the opposition defence.
The very fact that despite the enormous size and strength of the team it takes us over 300 attempts before we score from a corner demonstrates as vividly as anything else that the manager has no plan beyond picking a different group of good players each game and asking them to go and do their best.
People say we have been found out and teams know how to play against us. The truth is the manager has been found out.
Paul_Powers_Tash said:The stats tell the full story. We dominated every one of them apart from the only one that mattered,
The truth is that this season we look like a group of talented players, thrown together and given a football and told to go and work it out, The players are good enough to keep the ball and thus have the lions share of possession, corners etc but against well organised teams we cant make our superior skills and stats count.
For people scratching their heads let me let you into a little secret. Teams win leagues not individuals, and teams are created on the training ground by the manager. Teams play in certain ways that maximise the opportunity at that particular time/situation and minimise the threat. This is done by group habit and not individual choice. Group habits are built, refined and ingrained on the training pitch by a manager with vision who knows what he is doing..
When Mancini took over he upset Tevez, Bellend and co because he made them train and practice without a football. He drilled it into the players where he expected them to be and what he expected them to do in given situations. These drills were designed to inflict the maximum damage on the opposition dependent of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses while minimising the oppositions potential to hurt us. Only when they understood this did he give the players a ball to play with.
This is nothing new or revolutionary but is an absolute per-requisite if you want to win the highest honors in the game.
What we are seeing from Pellegrini is absolutely not this. There is no game plan uniquely devised to maximise the tools/players at the managers disposal considering the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition. There is no preset, co-ordinated patterns of play to create maximum havoc in the opposition defence.
The very fact that despite the enormous size and strength of the team it takes us over 300 attempts before we score from a corner demonstrates as vividly as anything else that the manager has no plan beyond picking a different group of good players each game and asking them to go and do their best.
People say we have been found out and teams know how to play against us. The truth is the manager has been found out.
Eaglechief said:Paul_Powers_Tash said:The stats tell the full story. We dominated every one of them apart from the only one that mattered,
The truth is that this season we look like a group of talented players, thrown together and given a football and told to go and work it out, The players are good enough to keep the ball and thus have the lions share of possession, corners etc but against well organised teams we cant make our superior skills and stats count.
For people scratching their heads let me let you into a little secret. Teams win leagues not individuals, and teams are created on the training ground by the manager. Teams play in certain ways that maximise the opportunity at that particular time/situation and minimise the threat. This is done by group habit and not individual choice. Group habits are built, refined and ingrained on the training pitch by a manager with vision who knows what he is doing..
When Mancini took over he upset Tevez, Bellend and co because he made them train and practice without a football. He drilled it into the players where he expected them to be and what he expected them to do in given situations. These drills were designed to inflict the maximum damage on the opposition dependent of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses while minimising the oppositions potential to hurt us. Only when they understood this did he give the players a ball to play with.
This is nothing new or revolutionary but is an absolute per-requisite if you want to win the highest honors in the game.
What we are seeing from Pellegrini is absolutely not this. There is no game plan uniquely devised to maximise the tools/players at the managers disposal considering the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition. There is no preset, co-ordinated patterns of play to create maximum havoc in the opposition defence.
The very fact that despite the enormous size and strength of the team it takes us over 300 attempts before we score from a corner demonstrates as vividly as anything else that the manager has no plan beyond picking a different group of good players each game and asking them to go and do their best.
People say we have been found out and teams know how to play against us. The truth is the manager has been found out.
Well put sir! The best reply tonight on this forum.