Palestinian Boy Kidnapped and Murdered.

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dazdon said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Plaything of the gods said:
Hamas was democratically elected.
So was Hitler.

And?
And the same as your point that Hamas were democratically elected. Hitler used the democratic process to impose a dictatorship and so did Hamas. And once Hamas took control of Gaza, they massacred Fatah supporters/fighters, citing the same rationale (that they were collaborators with the enemy) that Hitler used in massacring the Jews of Russia in the aftermath of Barbarosssa in 1941.
 
blue underpants said:
Rascal said:
Im really struggling to see how massed tanks can solve anythiing

The more I learn about this, the more I think Isreal have become the sycophantic bastards bankrolled by an all powerful American Jewish elite

Will read more and apologise if my first thoughts are misguided
Massed tanks seem to have worked for the peoples Soviet Republic in putting down rebellion in Hungary in 1956 Rasc, just thought i would jog your memory in case you forgot!


They wont use the tanks though.

More than likely halfway to the enemy lines they will paint flowers on them and have a show and tell session before heading back home singing songs.
 
west didsblue said:
Damocles said:
west didsblue said:
Like you say, I think you need to read more.

Ding.
You can't say that when my post was before yours!

I tend to post after reading a post rather than reading to the end then posting, but you're right that that seems a bit dickish.

My point is that I feel that we're going to be here forever and the same 10 people defend every action of Israel, the same 10 people defend every action of Palestinians and the same 20 people decry the actions of either Israel or Palestine. It's an incredibly predictable conversation and it's why it is so irritating. Almost nobody is using logic to shape their views. Everybody is trying to be less twattish than the others.

It's just tedious. Rascal with all due respect to the man asked for more information and got a couple of posts saying essentially "go forth and multiply...your knowledge".

I abhor fundamentalism of opinion wherever I see it and these threads are irritating in some of the participants inability to move from their prescribed opinion. If there's no chance of you moving from your opinion, then there's no point in your posting.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
dazdon said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
So was Hitler.

And?
And the same as your point that Hamas were democratically elected. Hitler used the democratic process to impose a dictatorship and so did Hamas. And once Hamas took control of Gaza, they massacred Fatah supporters/fighters, citing the same rationale (that they were collaborators with the enemy) that Hitler used in massacring the Jews of Russia in the aftermath of Barbarosssa in 1941.

Some say that Israel is that far right it can end up falling off the end of the spectrum.

Is there a danger of Israel doing what Germany did then?

Palestine has a population of around 4 million it's never going to be a super power who's going to blitzkrieg countries into submission is it?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
dazdon said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
So was Hitler.

And?
And the same as your point that Hamas were democratically elected. Hitler used the democratic process to impose a dictatorship and so did Hamas. And once Hamas took control of Gaza, they massacred Fatah supporters/fighters, citing the same rationale (that they were collaborators with the enemy) that Hitler used in massacring the Jews of Russia in the aftermath of Barbarosssa in 1941.
It was Abbas and Fatah who dissolved the government and declared a state of emergency.
 
Damocles said:
west didsblue said:
Damocles said:
You can't say that when my post was before yours!

I tend to post after reading a post rather than reading to the end then posting, but you're right that that seems a bit dickish.

My point is that I feel that we're going to be here forever and the same 10 people defend every action of Israel, the same 10 people defend every action of Palestinians and the same 20 people decry the actions of either Israel or Palestine. It's an incredibly predictable conversation and it's why it is so irritating. Almost nobody is using logic to shape their views. Everybody is trying to be less twattish than the others.

It's just tedious. Rascal with all due respect to the man asked for more information and got a couple of posts saying essentially "go forth and multiply...your knowledge".

I abhor fundamentalism of opinion wherever I see it and these threads are irritating in some of the participants inability to move from their prescribed opinion. If there's no chance of you moving from your opinion, then there's no point in your posting.
From what I've read, nearly all posters sympathetic to Israel in general do not defend and are openly critical of Israel's current Settlement policy.
 
Barker said:
A new United Nations document says that in most cases where Palestinians have been killed or injured during Israel’s ongoing Gaza campaign, the Israeli army alerted civilians ahead of time who were occupying buildings, that they planned to bomb in Gaza, to leave the premises.

“At least 35 residential buildings were reportedly targeted and destroyed, resulting in the majority of the civilian casualties recorded so far, including an attack on 8 July in Khan Younis that killed seven civilians, including three children, and injured another 25,” according to the Occupied Palestinian Territory: Hostilities in Gaza and Israel Situation Report. “In most cases, prior to the attacks, residents have been warned to leave, either via phone calls by the Israel military or by the firing of warning missiles.”

The document was released by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) at 15:00 on July, 9, 2014.

Hamas, however, has officially urged residents to ignore the Israeli warnings to evacuate prior to Air Force air strikes, and, instead, called on them to serve as human shields.

The Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Interior and National Security said in a statement released on Wednesday, that “(sic) the ministry calling all our people not to deal or pay attention to the psychological warfare carried out by the occupation through rumors that broadcast across his media and delivering publications and communications on the phones of citizens, and the lack of response for each of these means, which aims to weaken the domestic front in light of great steadfastness of our people to face the aggression.”

In an interview on July 8, Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri justified using residents as human shields. Prime Minister Netanyahu, in a statement released at the conclusion of a crucial security cabinet meeting Thursday evening on the third day of Operation Protective Edge, emphasized that the IDF was “making every effort to avoid hitting civilians and innocents.”

The PM noted that the casualties so far were because Hamas officials were “maliciously hiding behind Palestinian civilians.”

Israeli Air Force (IAF) GOC Maj.-Gen. Amir Eshel said at the same meeting that Israel dropped “hundreds of tons of ordnance and bombs on terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip, in a very complicated environment in which civilians are being used as human shields and we are trying to avoid hitting civilians as much as possible.”

Palestinians report that close to 90 Gazans have been killed and some 630 wounded in IAF strikes across the 40-kilometer-long coastal enclave since the start of Operation Protective Edge.

Israel contends that many of the casualties are members of Hamas and other terror groups. “When houses are used for military purposes, they may become legitimate military targets under international law,” the army additionally said in a statement released Thursday.

However, “Even when a house is considered a lawful military target, the IDF makes great efforts to minimize potential harm to the surrounding civilian population,” the army said.

“The IDF may use real-time visual coverage in order to assess the civilian presence at a target,” the statement said. “The IDF also carefully chooses weaponry and ammunition that will help to minimize any harm to civilians. In certain instances, the IDF also provides advance warning before striking a target,” according to the statement.

“Many of the IDF’s efforts in this regard go beyond its legal obligations and the accepted practice of other militaries operating in urban areas,” the statement read.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/united-nations-most-gaza-casualties-were-warned-by-idf-to-leave-targeted-buildings-in-advance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/un ... n-advance/</a>

What a lovely bunch that Hamas are. Totally deserve to be taking no blame in any of this.

Stop promoting terrorism and condemn Hamas too!

Algemeiner is America's fastest growing Jewish newspaper so they might, just might, be a tad biased in their reporting.
 
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