Palestinian Boy Kidnapped and Murdered.

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how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world.
but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
 
bluegonads said:
how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world. but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
If Wales were firing hundreds of missiles randomly towards population centres in England, would you expect England to do something about it?
 
west didsblue said:
bluegonads said:
how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world. but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
If Wales were firing hundreds of missiles randomly towards population centres in England, would you expect England to do something about it?

no?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Oh the delicious irony of a citizen of that beacon of religious tolerance and multi-culturalism that is Pakistan lecturing us on tolerance.
Citizen in Pakistan said:
When people talk about Hamas they forget that Hamas is a democratically elected party of Palestinians and not the terrorist organization they try to define
Fact - Hamas is still blacklisted by the EU and USA.

Citizen in Pakistan said:
And isn't it surprising that Hamas fired so many rockers and targeted civilians and yet there is no news of an injury even forget the death. The current score line is 160+ and counting to 0,and not one report on any damage to buildings?
Targeting civilians, as Hamas apologists keep telling us, is a war crime whether you kill them or not. There have been some deaths & injuries (fortunately few because Israelis have 15 seconds warning to get to a safe room or shelter) and lots of damage to property. There was a petrol station hit in Ashdod the other day and a serious injury. And if there had been deaths, would then then justify Israeli reprisals that caused more deaths? There's no doubt that if Hamas could cause mass casualties, it would. Would that make you feel better?

Citizen in Pakistan said:
Just because those people are from a different religion that doesn't make them any less human,just the other day 8 people were killed out of which 5 were children while they were watching Argentina Holland semi final. Those weren't terrorist for sure
So tell me all about the attacks on non-Muslims in Pakistan. Last September over 85 Christians were killed and hundreds injured by two bombs detonated as they came out of All Saints church in Peshawar. Those weren't terrorists for sure. This is from The Guardian's report of the incident:
"It's not safe for Christians in this country," said Mano Rumalshah, the bishop emeritus of Peshawar, who was standing in the courtyard, comforting sobbing parishioners who clasped his white robes. Everyone is ignoring the growing danger to Christians in Muslim-majority countries. The European countries don't give a damn about us."
Are they lying too?

get a grip PB. I can't see where CIP is lecturing us, and why shouldn't he/she air an opinion?
 
stonerblue said:
get a grip PB. I can't see where CIP is lecturing us, and why shouldn't he/she air an opinion?

Apparently because he's from Pakistan, and it's only us whiter than white Westerners who are entitled to air an opinion on Israel.
 
west didsblue said:
bluegonads said:
how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world. but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
If Wales were firing hundreds of missiles randomly towards population centres in England, would you expect England to do something about it?

Would you expect England to collectively punish the entire population of Wales?
Despite it being against the Geneva convention?
 
The Flash said:
west didsblue said:
bluegonads said:
how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world. but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
If Wales were firing hundreds of missiles randomly towards population centres in England, would you expect England to do something about it?

Would you expect England to collectively punish the entire population of Wales?
Despite it being against the Geneva convention?
I've read a lot of criticism about Israel's actions, but what realistically would you want them to do when hamas are hiding themselves and rockets in civilian areas and using their own people as human shields. They are already doing everything then can to make sure civilians are out of there by telling them before hand. What more do you actually want them to do?
 
Mister Appointment said:
stonerblue said:
get a grip PB. I can't see where CIP is lecturing us, and why shouldn't he/she air an opinion?

Apparently because he's from Pakistan, and it's only us whiter than white Westerners who are entitled to air an opinion on Israel.

It is just another excuse to use silencing tactics and debating techniques that only boil down to ad hominem attacks. There is only one true loon in this thread and he hasn't been championing Hamas's cause. Rather he has justified Israeli's attacks on civilians and frequent breach of international law as a means to a "greater good", If I was also a lunatic I could justify militant aggression by Hamas as a means to a greater good, and there is nobody that has the moral high ground to make such a ridiculous claim in favour of either of the two sides.
I haven't seen any of the so called informed posters on the Israeli side dismiss him in the manner that CIP has been to with utter contempt by PB.
 
The Flash said:
west didsblue said:
bluegonads said:
how do Israel get away with this?
i''m not on either side, personally i'd like to see both countries tore up and placed on opposite sides of the world. but if GB were bombing the hell out of Wales (or chose a more similar situation) NATO etc would be all over it, threatened with sanctions, and eventually millitary action.
why ALWAYS the kid glove approach with Israel?
If Wales were firing hundreds of missiles randomly towards population centres in England, would you expect England to do something about it?

Would you expect England to collectively punish the entire population of Wales?
Despite it being against the Geneva convention?
I would expect England to do whatever it had to do to prevent the missiles from being fired.
 
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