Palestinian Boy Kidnapped and Murdered.

[west didsblue]

International law gives the right to resist an occupation and this conflict is not 1 month old its 66 years old when Israel took over Palestine but sorry to say Israeli supporters don't want to to go back in history or reply to this argument and its amazing and it baffles me that ppl continue with this thinking that Hamas is firing rockets etc,well there isn't any proof of a building dame,a casuality or an injury and yet they go on with this,and if ure main source of information on this issue is BBC or CNN or mainstream then what can one say
Stop blaming Hamas and drawing this stupid comparasion at one side u have one of the best,highly equiped miltary force and on the other side a prison state

Have I read this right? Do you honestly think that there is no proof that Hamas are firing rockets at all??

 

[dazdon]

International law gives the right to resist an occupation and this conflict is not 1 month old its 66 years old when Israel took over Palestine but sorry to say Israeli supporters don't want to to go back in history or reply to this argument and its amazing and it baffles me that ppl continue with this thinking that Hamas is firing rockets etc,well there isn't any proof of a building dame,a casuality or an injury and yet they go on with this,and if ure main source of information on this issue is BBC or CNN or mainstream then what can one say
Stop blaming Hamas and drawing this stupid comparasion at one side u have one of the best,highly equiped miltary force and on the other side a prison state

Have I read this right? Do you honestly think that there is no proof that Hamas are firing rockets at all??

Maybe they don't report the rockets being fired in Pakistan?

That's the only reason I can possibly see for denial.

 

[west didsblue]

Yes but what is an indisputable fact is that Israel has no problem in dropping bombs upon schools, hospitals, etc knowing there are civilians in those buildings. Israel may claim that there are terrorists hiding in those buildings but ultimately all we have is their word that that is the case. In the meantime the people of Palestine are, to coin an Americanism, being bombed back to the dark ages.

But they don't just drop bombs without warning though. What other country in the world would send multiple warnings first, so that citizens can evacuate before the do strike the place? The doesn't sound like a nation hell bent on killing as many Palestinians civilians as possible.

The Israeli war machine is geared towards killing as many Palestinians as possible. They don't give a fuck if it breaks International Law. In fact I suspect they secretly enjoy sticking two fingers up at watching world whilst killing as many Muslims as possible.

It's fucking sickening and it needs to stop but it won't. Israel will simply continue to ignore the pleas of the international community whilst hiding behind it's daddy the USA like the coward it is.

What utter bollocks. If that was the case there would be thousands of casualties not dozens, and the war would be over in 2 days.

 

[BillyShears]

But they don't just drop bombs without warning though. What other country in the world would send multiple warnings first, so that citizens can evacuate before the do strike the place? The doesn't sound like a nation hell bent on killing as many Palestinians civilians as possible.

The Israeli war machine is geared towards killing as many Palestinians as possible. They don't give a fuck if it breaks International Law. In fact I suspect they secretly enjoy sticking two fingers up at watching world whilst killing as many Muslims as possible.

It's fucking sickening and it needs to stop but it won't. Israel will simply continue to ignore the pleas of the international community whilst hiding behind it's daddy the USA like the coward it is.

What utter bollocks. If that was the case there would be thousands of casualties not dozens, and the war would be over in 2 days.

Don't worry, I know it is. My blind rage at some of the Israeli apologists tends to take over from time to time. Especially when they make spurious claims about being "neutral".

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.

USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

 

[Blue Til Death]

International law gives the right to resist an occupation and this conflict is not 1 month old its 66 years old when Israel took over Palestine but sorry to say Israeli supporters don't want to to go back in history or reply to this argument and its amazing and it baffles me that ppl continue with this thinking that Hamas is firing rockets etc,well there isn't any proof of a building dame,a casuality or an injury and yet they go on with this,and if ure main source of information on this issue is BBC or CNN or mainstream then what can one say
Stop blaming Hamas and drawing this stupid comparasion at one side u have one of the best,highly equiped miltary force and on the other side a prison state

Have I read this right? Do you honestly think that there is no proof that Hamas are firing rockets at all??

This can only be Bigga in disguise, whatever side of the argument you fall on, saying rockets are not fired into Israel is complete lunacy, not even Hamas deny it and in fact positively trumpet it from the rooftops.

I love Bluemoon though, its like watching a University Challenge in an asylum for the criminally insane crossed with Jeremy Kyle and the Comedians.. Long live The Bluemoon Forum...!!

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.

the Iron Dome or whatever its called seems to work amazingly well so I agree with you, it doesn't make any sense to pound the living shit out of Gaza if all it does is kill civilians and make the Palestinians hate Israel even more. surely the best method would be to ignore the attacks and hope they ran out of steam. either they don't want peace or they are under pressure from the Israeli public.

 

[west didsblue]

International law gives the right to resist an occupation and this conflict is not 1 month old its 66 years old when Israel took over Palestine but sorry to say Israeli supporters don't want to to go back in history or reply to this argument and its amazing and it baffles me that ppl continue with this thinking that Hamas is firing rockets etc,well there isn't any proof of a building dame,a casuality or an injury and yet they go on with this,and if ure main source of information on this issue is BBC or CNN or mainstream then what can one say
Stop blaming Hamas and drawing this stupid comparasion at one side u have one of the best,highly equiped miltary force and on the other side a prison state

Have I read this right? Do you honestly think that there is no proof that Hamas are firing rockets at all??

Maybe they don't report the rockets being fired in Pakistan?

That's the only reason I can possibly see for denial.

I get the impression he is one of the tin foil hat wearing brigade who would rather believe what loony conspiracy theorists post on nutty websites rather than what is reported in mainstream media.

 

[mcmanus]

what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.

USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand.