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mcmanus said:
Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand[/b].


Some say it's Jewish lobbyists and the zionist movement within the USA putting pressure on the USA through big business and banking.

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mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.
USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

Its not rocket science (Pun intended) there are many millions of jews in the US and they carry a lot of clout politically.. Simple as that my friend.. !
 
mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.
USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.

USA! USA! USA!
 
mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
what I'm confused about, and I've only been skim reading as to be honest, a lot of what's been posted so far has been so full of agenda that even De Niro would give up on it.

However, with Israel having this anti-missile defence system, which seems to be working rather well, why do they need to go bombing the shit out of the Palestinians, and risking the lives of multiple civilians in the process? Sure, and this may sound crude, it's not a good position to be in having rockets launched at you repeatedly, if you are dealing with the threat and knocking them out of the sky, surely the better policy is to just keep doing it, and let the world see is that you are not being a) retaliatory, b) aggressive and c) seen to be murdering civilians?

To me, surely Israel's ploy should be to demonstrate the terrorist nature of Hamas, and thus trying to create a situation whereby normal Palestinian citizens turn against their leadership and start to change the ball game, rather than matching fire with obscene amounts of deadly fire, and in the process looking very poor for it and really damaging chances of any agreement.

Of course, it seems to be clear the Israeli government doesn't really want any form of conciliatory agreement, otherwise they wouldn't be so inflammatory, but it just seems that they are intending to keep this conflict going, rather than taking more sensible measures to ensure it stops.
USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.


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TheMightyQuinn said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mcmanus said:
This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.

USA! USA! USA!

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nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
USA pledges plenty of military 'aid' to Israel. Those rockets and defence systems are sure making money for some people.

This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.
Now that you mention it you could be onto something there.
 
dronefromsector7g said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mcmanus said:
This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.
Now that you mention it you could be onto something there.

Reason no. 742 why I dislike the USA and will never visit.
 
dronefromsector7g said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
mcmanus said:
This is what baffles me Drone (pun intended).

Exactly why do the good ole US of A keep giving military aid and hardware to Israel? I just don't fucking understand
.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.
Now that you mention it you could be onto something there.
Would anyone like a tin foil hat? ;O)
 
mcmanus said:
dronefromsector7g said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest it may possibly be due to the powerful influence exerted by the Jewish lobbies in the Senate and House of Congress, and the fact that it's good business which keeps folk in the munitions and armaments industries in jobs, but I'm sure that's just my cynical view, and they are really acting out of altruism and concern for their fellow human beings after all, because if there's one thing the US cares about it's upholding freedom, morality and justice for all.
Now that you mention it you could be onto something there.

Reason no. 742 why I dislike the USA and will never visit.

I would like the previous 741 reasons please, macca.

*waits*
*expects to be called a *****
 
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