Paris Saint-Germain (A) - CL | Post-Match Thread

People are chuckling at this post but the part in bold is a theory I've had recently. The only English teams to win the Champions League in the 2010s were Chelsea and Liverpool. And guess who won the Europa League or reached the final in that time? It didn't do Chelsea any damage to win it, it didn't cause Liverpool any problems when they reached the final. Of course United won it and reached the final and did fuck all in the Champions League in this time, but they're a rather special case since Ferguson left.
What you havent mentioned here is that Liverpool and Chelsea failed to qualify for the champions league in the years that they won the Europa (unless you mean the Chelsea 2013 win after which they broke the team up and won nothing for a couple of years) Us dropping down from the CL to the Europa is a completely different scenario. Thursday night football is to be avoided.
 
People are chuckling at this post but the part in bold is a theory I've had recently. The only English teams to win the Champions League in the 2010s were Chelsea and Liverpool. And guess who won the Europa League or reached the final in that time? It didn't do Chelsea any damage to win it, it didn't cause Liverpool any problems when they reached the final. Of course United won it and reached the final and did fuck all in the Champions League in this time, but they're a rather special case since Ferguson left.
Likkle City lives on. Incredible stuff.
 
People are chuckling at this post but the part in bold is a theory I've had recently. The only English teams to win the Champions League in the 2010s were Chelsea and Liverpool. And guess who won the Europa League or reached the final in that time? It didn't do Chelsea any damage to win it, it didn't cause Liverpool any problems when they reached the final. Of course United won it and reached the final and did fuck all in the Champions League in this time, but they're a rather special case since Ferguson left.
I understand the gateway to a Europa League trophy but I think we should continue our progress in the Chumps League as a side to be reckoned with each season.

its a testimony to the owners , the supporters , the players and past and present managers and support staff that we have the recent longest continual run in the competition missing out on the knockout stage only once without Europa league games to play notwithstanding the two paths to qualification each season.

this run despite coming up short each season and falling in the final last season cannot be dismissed as something as a given using the money angle as justification as to why it should be a given.
 
It would help, but most of the games we lose aren't actually settled by a reliable goalscorer. Obviously Son usually bags against us but Kane doesn't. Fernandes has one penalty against us (and his record against the other big sides is awful too). Liverpool's front three usually cause us problems but honestly the difference maker is usually not even a forward player.

Players that have scored against us in (fairly) recent big game losses include:
  • Idrissa Gueye
  • Kai Havertz
  • Hakim Ziyech x2
  • Marcos Alonso
  • Luke Shaw
Going back to 19/20 and you start seeing names like McTominay, Fabinho, Bergwijn, Matić, Cornet etc.

How come other teams manage to beat us without reliable goalscorers getting on the scoresheet?
Good observation, man!
 
What you havent mentioned here is that Liverpool and Chelsea failed to qualify for the champions league in the years that they won the Europa (unless you mean the Chelsea 2013 win after which they broke the team up and won nothing for a couple of years) Us dropping down from the CL to the Europa is a completely different scenario. Thursday night football is to be avoided.
And imagine finishing 3rd in a group where Club Brugge finish second. Yeah sure it'll do wonders for our confidence.
 

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