Paul Dickov

Vienna_70 said:
Shaelumstash said:
johnbmcr said:
good point m8 you get the same in many other jobs looking busy but producing nothing civil service types and chief constables have made an art of it

out of curiosity what paper does Colin Bell take?
Thanks for having a bit of an objective opinion mate, makes a change on here!

The King reads The Guardian and The Telegraph, adds the news together, divides it by 2, and ends up with the truth. That's why he's the King!

No, Colin Bell is The King because of his ability on the football, not which newspaper(s) he reads.

Paul Dickov will always have a special place in my heart and memories, too. Not because he was a footballer of great technical ability or skill, but because he gave his all for Manchester City EVERY time he stepped over that white line and because he was a member of the squads that won back-to-back promotions and because of the goal he scored on 30/5/99. And yes, I was there to witness it.

As others have said, we would have loved to have had players of the level of Silva, Agüero and YaYa playing for us in the late '90s, but we couldn't afford such fantastic talents. Instead we had to make do with what we could afford, and players such as Dickov, Goater and Morrison were all in the latter category .

Without these players - and the rest of those around at that time - we wouldn't be Champions now.
Just to clarify, I didn't genuinely think Colin Bell was the king because of the newspapers he reads. Happy to clear that up for you.

There are lots of players from that era who gave their all EVERY time they played for City who were also useless footballers. Dickov, Barry Conlon, Lee Crooks, Jeff Whitley, Jamie Pollock. I didn't rate any of them.

Players from the same era who had a bit of ABILITY but maybe not as much work rate such as Bishop, Horlock, Cook and Goater are far more fondly remembered by me. I'm not dismissing the effort of the first group, I just didn't rate them as footballers or think they were ever good enough to play for City. The second group of course wouldn't get in today's side, but if we'd had a few more of them, and a few less of the talentless grafters group, we'd have never sunk so low in the first place.
 
I started following the club as a young lad in the '90s. I could care less about who had more ability - for me there will be no greater City hero than Paul Dickov. I'll never forget that day. Can't imagine anything else (this past May included) ever meaning more to me as far as football moments.

Just my opinion, for what little it is worth. But I know I am not alone in saying so.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Vienna_70 said:
Shaelumstash said:
Thanks for having a bit of an objective opinion mate, makes a change on here!

The King reads The Guardian and The Telegraph, adds the news together, divides it by 2, and ends up with the truth. That's why he's the King!

No, Colin Bell is The King because of his ability on the football, not which newspaper(s) he reads.

Paul Dickov will always have a special place in my heart and memories, too. Not because he was a footballer of great technical ability or skill, but because he gave his all for Manchester City EVERY time he stepped over that white line and because he was a member of the squads that won back-to-back promotions and because of the goal he scored on 30/5/99. And yes, I was there to witness it.

As others have said, we would have loved to have had players of the level of Silva, Agüero and YaYa playing for us in the late '90s, but we couldn't afford such fantastic talents. Instead we had to make do with what we could afford, and players such as Dickov, Goater and Morrison were all in the latter category .

Without these players - and the rest of those around at that time - we wouldn't be Champions now.
Just to clarify, I didn't genuinely think Colin Bell was the king because of the newspapers he reads. Happy to clear that up for you.

There are lots of players from that era who gave their all EVERY time they played for City who were also useless footballers. Dickov, Barry Conlon, Lee Crooks, Jeff Whitley, Jamie Pollock. I didn't rate any of them.

Players from the same era who had a bit of ABILITY but maybe not as much work rate such as Bishop, Horlock, Cook and Goater are far more fondly remembered by me. I'm not dismissing the effort of the first group, I just didn't rate them as footballers or think they were ever good enough to play for City. The second group of course wouldn't get in today's side, but if we'd had a few more of them, and a few less of the talentless grafters group, we'd have never sunk so low in the first place.

Of course they were good enough to play for City; they played for us regularly in the late 1990s / early 2000s.

It's interesting to note that you rate Cooke, but not Dickov, and yet the former Arsenal forward played many more times for City than the ex-rag winger did, once we returned to the second tier.

Obviously Joe Royle knew more about footballers than you did, or indeed still do.

As has already been mentioned MANY times, we had these players at City because we couldn't afford anything better. Do you think that Andy Morrison, who - in my opinion and that of many others - is more responsible than any other player for City only spending one season in the third tier of English football shouldn't have played for City becuse he only cost £80 000? Maybe he's another you don't deem good enough to have pulled on the sky/laser blue?

Every player who appeared for the first team - no matter how many or how few times - has a place in our history.

IMHO, your very blinkered view is nothing short of disgraceful.
 
Shaelumstash said:
The likes of you need to calm down. Paul Dickov gave us 2 relegations, one of them down to the third tier of English football. Helping to get us back up is the least he could do! Far from a "legend" in my eyes.

I've been out for two or three hours and see the same old bollox when I return. Do you realise what a dick-cheese you sound like using expressions such as "the likes of you"?

Think before you post if that's not too much fucking mental effort.
 
sir baconface said:
Shaelumstash said:
The likes of you need to calm down. Paul Dickov gave us 2 relegations, one of them down to the third tier of English football. Helping to get us back up is the least he could do! Far from a "legend" in my eyes.

I've been out for two or three hours and see the same old bollox when I return. Do you realise what a dick-cheese you sound like using expressions such as "the likes of you"?

Think before you post if that's not too much fucking mental effort.
The likes of you need to calm down too.
 
Vienna_70 said:
Shaelumstash said:
Vienna_70 said:
No, Colin Bell is The King because of his ability on the football, not which newspaper(s) he reads.

Paul Dickov will always have a special place in my heart and memories, too. Not because he was a footballer of great technical ability or skill, but because he gave his all for Manchester City EVERY time he stepped over that white line and because he was a member of the squads that won back-to-back promotions and because of the goal he scored on 30/5/99. And yes, I was there to witness it.

As others have said, we would have loved to have had players of the level of Silva, Agüero and YaYa playing for us in the late '90s, but we couldn't afford such fantastic talents. Instead we had to make do with what we could afford, and players such as Dickov, Goater and Morrison were all in the latter category .

Without these players - and the rest of those around at that time - we wouldn't be Champions now.
Just to clarify, I didn't genuinely think Colin Bell was the king because of the newspapers he reads. Happy to clear that up for you.

There are lots of players from that era who gave their all EVERY time they played for City who were also useless footballers. Dickov, Barry Conlon, Lee Crooks, Jeff Whitley, Jamie Pollock. I didn't rate any of them.

Players from the same era who had a bit of ABILITY but maybe not as much work rate such as Bishop, Horlock, Cook and Goater are far more fondly remembered by me. I'm not dismissing the effort of the first group, I just didn't rate them as footballers or think they were ever good enough to play for City. The second group of course wouldn't get in today's side, but if we'd had a few more of them, and a few less of the talentless grafters group, we'd have never sunk so low in the first place.

Of course they were good enough to play for City; they played for us regularly in the late 1990s / early 2000s.

It's interesting to note that you rate Cooke, but not Dickov, and yet the former Arsenal forward played many more times for City than the ex-rag winger did, once we returned to the second tier.

Obviously Joe Royle knew more about footballers than you did, or indeed still do.

As has already been mentioned MANY times, we had these players at City because we couldn't afford anything better. Do you think that Andy Morrison, who - in my opinion and that of many others - is more responsible than any other player for City only spending one season in the third tier of English football shouldn't have played for City becuse he only cost £80 000? Maybe he's another you don't deem good enough to have pulled on the sky/laser blue?

Every player who appeared for the first team - no matter how many or how few times - has a place in our history.

IMHO, your very blinkered view is nothing short of disgraceful.
Didn't mind Morrison. I didn't rate him as highly as many do on here, but he wasn't a bad centre half at that level.

Of course every player has a place in our history, but not all are legends are they? I didn't mind Morrison, but certainly not a "City legend" in my eyes.

Kevin Keegan turfed out Dickov as soon as he got the job. So did Sven in Dickov's second spell after Pearce had brought him back. I certainly rate Keegan and Sven's judgement of a player over Royle's, Pearce's and yours.

I also heard it was Dickov that Keegan directed his imfamous "I can't believe you've made it as a professional footballer" jibe at. But over the course of time the story has changed to Macken and others because Dickov is so fondly remembered by many.

The "couldn't afford better" shite doesn't stack up. I've mentioned 4 or 5 players from the same era who were far better players than Dickov who aren't remembered as fondly. We could afford them! The likes of Bishop, Horlock, Cook, Goater. Far better players than Dickov. Not as fondly remembered because they didn't "graft" and "die for the shirt" as much though. Shame
 
Shaelumstash said:
sir baconface said:
Shaelumstash said:
The likes of you need to calm down. Paul Dickov gave us 2 relegations, one of them down to the third tier of English football. Helping to get us back up is the least he could do! Far from a "legend" in my eyes.

I've been out for two or three hours and see the same old bollox when I return. Do you realise what a dick-cheese you sound like using expressions such as "the likes of you"?

Think before you post if that's not too much fucking mental effort.
The likes of you need to calm down too.

Go to bed shaelumstash. You're wasting valuable wanking time. Yours, not mine.
 
Shaelumstash said:
paulchapo said:
I was at the game and i think he did get a bit of stick near the end for flying into a few tackles and trying so hard when we were fighting relegation,but that is the nature of the man.Once he puts the shirt on he will die for whatever shirt he is wearing,he is a pro.The celebration was out of order though and i am sure he regretted it pretty much afterwards.

It has been reported many times he loves the club and the fans and his kids were junior blues or whatever they call them these days.For those who say he was crap,don't forget we had no money and we were shopping in the bargain basement at the time.Aside from the Goat,nobody scored a lot of goals for us.He gave everything for the cause and like Joe Royle said,''He would chase waste paper.''

Aside from the Gillingham goal it was his harrying at Blackburn panicked their defence and led to the own goal to put us 2-1 up and he also scored the third himself.He will always have a special place in a lot of Blue's hearts and memories,mine included.

To be honest "chasing waste paper" is one of my major criticisms of him as a player. My dog can chase waste paper, but he's not good enough to be a professional footballer.

No intelligence, no movement, no technique, no composure, no ability, no good.
His goal against Gillingham pretty much makes your second point completely void.
 

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