Pep Guardiola - 2024/25

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Tugay One Cup said:
Because we had players who liked to be direct instead of passing the responsibility to others.

Neither Jack or Bernardo have the capability to attack with speed.
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This is a huge problem in this team.

Look at our 17/18 side as an example…

Silva and KDB at 8, both wanted to score and create goals. Sane and Sterling out wide, both direct and wanted to score and create goals. All 4 of them, taking responsibility to make things happen.

Look at today’s versions. There’s only KDB and he’s 6 years older and been plagued by injuries. Even Foden, seems to have gone into his shell. Our wide men are fucking useless. They’re not bad players but they are fucking useless in terms of delivering what you want/need/expect from wide forwards at the top level. All of them, should be delivering 15+ G/A contributions over the course of a season, Grealish and Savinho haven’t scored a fucking goal between them this season…it’s December.

I used to lose my shit at Sterling for his poor control, or missing another sitter but you know what…he took on the responsibility and got 20 goals a season. Our current crop should be embarrassed by their returns. Even Nunes has managed to get a steady number of assists when playing out wide. Theres zero excuses.

I remember Pep talking about Stones having massive balls. We need to sign AMs and wide forwards who have the same. The current bunch have vaginas.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
We need to stop blaming Pep.

Just ask yourself this.. was Grealish under instruction to take a terrible corner or Nunes under instructions to run back into the box and give away a pen?

It's on the players and honestly it feels like Ruben + 10 clowns out there!
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Who prepares the same highline tactics week in, week out even tho were getting turned over every game
 
Our game management us absolutely wank.
Walker is still tearing around the pitch like he's in his early 20s and constantly out of position. He contributes nothing in the buildup or offensively. He should be told not to cross the halfway line under any circumstances.
 
richards30 said:
The system has now been worked out finally and we cant break teams down, needs to change or nothing else will.
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I think our system still works with the right players. As it stands though, the opposition know that nothing is coming from out wide. Our wingers cut inside and play backwards. Our full backs don’t overlap. It means they can put all their focus on protecting the middle, that’s why KDB, Foden and particularly Haaland have zero space.

If Pep is going to persist with a front 3, the current wide men either need a rocket up their arses, or they need to fuck off out of the club. Sounds harsh but you can’t play a front 3, if the guy in the middle is the only 1 that scores goals. Our wide men are like having 2 extra full backs on the pitch. The left side is bad enough but the right side with Walker and Bernie, is fucking terrible.
 
Well with having a midweek off for a change, there's plenty time to get things straight on the training ground surely this week, and who knows maybe a player or 4 back to full fitness come Saturday.

It's been a good hunting ground for us in the past Villa Park ,(apart from last season), so get the team picked correctly to win the match, and try to start the Christmas period of games with some confidence, otherwise it's gonna be over come January the thought of qualifying for Europe...................unless the chequebook comes out that is.
 
People saying he’s changed things but he hasn’t really. Tactically we remain the same week to week. He hasn’t to find a way to get Haaland in games. We have to play with more intensity and move the ball quicker. Maybe be more direct I actually think for one game at least it would surprise the opponent as right now every team in the league knows what we are going to do and we don’t have the players to play that way. If our system isn’t working that has to change because you can’t change enough of the players right now
 
bondsman said:
The work rate and energy really aren’t there you’re spot on.
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Zero pressing to win the ball back for a start hence why our possession stats are dropping.
When we move forward we let teams setup while we pass for no reason because every player wants to play safe.
When we lose the ball we have players jogging back
No goals in the team at all

Zero leadership in this team aside from Dias. Every single player (kdb, Bernie, walker included) is hiding

How did we end up this shite?
I’d just play a couple of youth players against villa
 
jaiguruKun said:
Our game management us absolutely wank.
Walker is still tearing around the pitch like he's in his early 20s and constantly out of position. He contributes nothing in the buildup or offensively. He should be told not to cross the halfway line under any circumstances.
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Another completely brain-dead moment came when he gave the ball to Nunes before the penalty mistakes, and for some reason decided to run up the pitch instead of dropping deep like anyone with more than four brain cells would do.
 
Tb1981 said:
Zero pressing to win the ball back for a start hence why our possession stats are dropping.
When we move forward we let teams setup while we pass for no reason because every player wants to play safe.
When we lose the ball we have players jogging back
No goals in the team at all

Zero leadership in this team aside from Dias. Every single player (kdb, Bernie, walker included) is hiding

How did we end up this shite?
I’d just play a couple of youth players against villa
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He ended up with a team where no single player is able to press as a part of a team-pressing. Ad hoc formations to plaster the gaps, age, wrong build, simply not knowing how, pick any of those. This was the rule number one of his game plan he gave up in order to fit Haaland in and it all started from there. So you have Haaland ambling around while Kev or sometimes FOden making those ineffective mad dashes past him that would just leave holes behind.
Yesterday's game was such a god example, every time there was attempt to press in line whether up front or in the middle, on of our players on the wing would be a second late at least, mostly happened with Bernardo and Walker on our right and you have Doku who just does not defend. He lost the ball just before he was subbed, was very dangerous turnover for them, he didn't even bother to run back. Nunes at least realised he fecked it up and then he really fecked it up.
 
Tb1981 said:
Zero pressing to win the ball back for a start hence why our possession stats are dropping.
When we move forward we let teams setup while we pass for no reason because every player wants to play safe.
When we lose the ball we have players jogging back
No goals in the team at all

Zero leadership in this team aside from Dias. Every single player (kdb, Bernie, walker included) is hiding

How did we end up this shite?
I’d just play a couple of youth players against villa
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Pretty much my feelings.
As an example would we have scored their second goal yesterday? I highly doubt it as we just don't ask enough questions.
 
A possible big worry is that from what I read, Arsenal are going through a similar thing to us but have been bailed out my scoring so many set pieces.

Their forums are full of complaints about slow build up and lack of chance creation from open play.

Is it time for Pep to do another reinvention as this game plan seems to have run it's course?
 
B\connellblue said:
Pep had a reputation once for giving youth a chance. There has been no sign of it here unfortunately.
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That's why I still feel like he has a habit of favouring certain players , the clearest example would be Eric Garcia. Wasted a youth spot on a kid that he knew wasn't cut out for it, but some how he wanted to force it to happen and it just wasn't happening
 
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