Not going to repeat the problems we have with shape ive mentioned elsewhere even though its probably most appropriate here but safe to say it is all on him once more and his words worry me that we will persist with this approach and we will continue to struggle. Saying we pressed well for their second goal is mental, it was awful, worse than the two penalties we gave away. I really hope that's just pep in media mode and isn't his true views.

If a spanking against what was a distinctly average sporting side isn't the jolt up the arse he needs to change things, were going to be stuck with this for the foreseeable.

And sporting were average tonight by the way despite the united contingent wanking themselves silly over that, bournemouth were much better last weekend, they were just wasteful otherwise it would have been a similar scoreline.

Brighton are better than anything we've faced in the last month or so, do thr same against them and we'll get slapped. And then we've got actual quality sides like spurs, Dippers and villa on the horizon, they'll twat us in this setup.

I agree with what you say but will add not only would we gain some solidity defensively, it arguably suits the attacking players we currently have more to play more directly, quickly and put the ball at risk more. having 70% possession with slow build up against a compact 11 is doing nothing for us anyway as we cannot break teams down or reliably create chances, haaland is built to play on transition, kdb and foden can supply and create more if they are direct, the wingers can beat a man. if we didn't have pep in charge, with this squad, I'm fairly certain we'd be playing more directly.

I would suggest that him defending how we played in the post match press conference is completely different to what he'll be saying in the dressing room to be fair mate.

I always remember the Amazon documentary where he says "I'll defend you until the last day of our lives in the press conference, but in here I'll tell you the truth."

I imagine he'll have absolutely laid into them.

I do worry whether he'll change it or whether he'll double down and go for even more control.
 
If he'd managed the squad better and not gone with such a strong side v Spurs then these last two defeats in much more important games could have been avoided.

Stones and Dias should not have played at all against Spurs. When Akanji got injured in the warmup THAT was the time to throw the kid in not tonight. Playing him tonight was lamb to the slaughter stuff and will damage his confidence for a while. It was crazy kamikaze management. He's quite obviously nowhere near ready for the CL. I doubt we'll be seeing Jamal again this season.

If Walker hasn't trained for so long it made no sense to start him at the weekend and it's no coincidence both goals came down his side. Surely the better option would be to let him have a few more days training and to have started him tonight?

Even taking into account the injuries we have he's managed the squad really poorly over recent weeks. No wonder the players are a bit pissed off with him.
 
Who am I to criticise the great one BUT I do think he's guilty of muddled tthinking over recent weeks. If he'd managed the squad better and not gone with such a strong side v Spurs then these last two defeats could have been avoided.

Stones and Dias should not have played at all against Spurs. When Akanji got injured in the warmup THAT was the time to throw the kid in not tonight. Playing him tonight was lamb to the slaughter stuff and will damage his confidence for a while. It was crazy management He's quite obviously nowhere near ready for the CL. I doubt we'll be seeing Jamal again this season.

If Walker hasn't trained for so long it made no sense to start him at the weekend and it's no coincidence both goals came down his side. Surely the better option would be to let him have a few more days training and start him tonight?

Even taking into account the injuries he's managed the squad poorly over recent weeks. No wonder the players are a bit pissed off with him.
Yeah Pep is the greatest but he sometimes makes decisions that leave you scratching your head, that Spurs game was just bizarre.
 
I would suggest that him defending how we played in the post match press conference is completely different to what he'll be saying in the dressing room to be fair mate.

I always remember the Amazon documentary where he says "I'll defend you until the last day of our lives in the press conference, but in here I'll tell you the truth."

I imagine he'll have absolutely laid into them.

I do worry whether he'll change it or whether he'll double down and go for even more control.
That's my hope too but don't really see the need to try and defend a shitshow when we get thumped. No reason why he cannot take responsibility for the poor setup instead of claiming things we all know is not true.

I don't think he should be laying into anybody after that, it's his instructions they're carrying out. arguably, and under the appropriate circumstances, the senior players should be laying into him for that.

Can't see how anything changes for the weekend, best we can hope for is after the internationals.
 
The 316 with thise depleted personnel is nuts.

Even with Rodri its a big ask.

Back to the 3241. Get Gvardiol learning the Stones role.

Back to what works. Solidity.
 
I would suggest that him defending how we played in the post match press conference is completely different to what he'll be saying in the dressing room to be fair mate.

I always remember the Amazon documentary where he says "I'll defend you until the last day of our lives in the press conference, but in here I'll tell you the truth."

I imagine he'll have absolutely laid into them.

I do worry whether he'll change it or whether he'll double down and go for even more control.
Remember Southampton away in the treble season?!

He was quite calm in the post match interview but it was almost frightening in the changing rooms. Players wouldn’t even look at each other while he was talking. We only got to see that 10 months later when the documentary came out.
 
If he'd managed the squad better and not gone with such a strong side v Spurs then these last two defeats in much more important games could have been avoided.

Stones and Dias should not have played at all against Spurs. When Akanji got injured in the warmup THAT was the time to throw the kid in not tonight. Playing him tonight was lamb to the slaughter stuff and will damage his confidence for a while. It was crazy kamikaze management. He's quite obviously nowhere near ready for the CL. I doubt we'll be seeing Jamal again this season.

If Walker hasn't trained for so long it made no sense to start him at the weekend and it's no coincidence both goals came down his side. Surely the better option would be to let him have a few more days training and to have started him tonight?

Even taking into account the injuries we have he's managed the squad really poorly over recent weeks. No wonder the players are a bit pissed off with him.

I got a shed load of push back when I said in the spurs prematch thread it was a stupid lineup for that game, I was over reacting apparently. I said it precisely for the reasons we've seen this week and what you've just said.
 
We need athleticism and physicality in the midfield. He's raw but the only player who I see that can do that on the roster is Nico O'Reilly. I would roll with him in a double pivot.

Defensively, team was all over the place but the void of a midfield presence played a big part. No leaders in the back 4 against Sporting

Pep has proven he can get it right. I think he will. Right now we're just playing like shit but even in this spell there has been promise.
 

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