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I have yet to see a positive post from you .

Everybody was fed up with the result last night which is fair enough .

But if you have nothing positive to post , ever , please don't bother as it;s fucking tedious.
Theres more than enough posters posting the positives, in fact if we lost 10-0 some would still blame anything bar the players or manager. We are a very good side for sure but we have too many flaws to be great one. If you rest on your laurels the pack closes quickly and for the third time we havent kicked on after a title win. I never thought id see city win one title never mind 3 but when you have something you always want more. It was much simpler back when we weren't contenders, expectations were so much lower then. Now Every defeat hurts so much more.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Had the demeanor of PEG last night, worrying times.
And he really has no right to; Mourinho was told to make do with Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Valencia and an obnoxious assembly of dancing mercenaries - Guardiola’s back 5 alone including Ederson last night cost upwards of £200m. If he can’t coach them to collectively repel about 5 sporadic attacks from a woefully workman-like team of primitives, it’s his problem.

Mourinho got fucked over by that commerce-centric circus of a club, whereas this one has gone above and beyond over the past 4 years to facilitate the kind of practically impossible to fail environment Pep exclusively operates in; anything less than successive titles and a Champions League final appearance(s) is failure, and he’ll be exclusively accountable.

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Pep is obviously a great manager but there's no getting away from the fact that IF the dippers win the title this season, then one title win in three seasons isnt a great record.
Same as Mancini and Pellegrini, but with infinitely better players, depth of quality and an inherited ‘big club’ mentality.

I totally understand bleu (one post?) we may never be as great as the grate teams, but I am would rather be a blue than a red. How about you? Also think FFP was introduced to keep the Status Quo, we could never sell out like Stretford Rangers do (whats your thoughts) as we have a small fan base, (were you there when Vinny scored in '12) - we will get by( just), but wish you all the best in your endeavours....
 
Theres more than enough posters posting the positives, in fact if we lost 10-0 some would still blame anything bar the players or manager. We are a very good side for sure but we have too many flaws to be great one. If you rest on your laurels the pack closes quickly and for the third time we havent kicked on after a title win. I never thought id see city win one title never mind 3 but when you have something you always want more. It was much simpler back when we weren't contenders, expectations were so much lower then. Now Every defeat hurts so much more.

That's it,fucking spot on,we knew when we were really shit,we expected it,but those days are menna be gone,the defeats hurt a whole load more,and people younger than us will never ever understand that.
 
That's it,fucking spot on,we knew when we were really shit,we expected it,but those days are menna be gone,the defeats hurt a whole load more,and people younger than us will never ever understand that.
I'm 56 and haven't a clue what you're on about. It's better now than it's ever bee for me. I went last night and was disappointed driving home, but hurt more than the 80s and 90s not a chance.
 
If say we win one or both domestic cups this season how would Pep's three year stint to date be considered?

Clearly not a resounding success as one league title plus say 2 LCs & an FA Cup would be a decent but not amazing return considering the squad we have. One title and 2 LCs would be a relative failure I would suggest and if we end up with nothing this season then it's hard to say anything other than two trophyless seasons out of three is unacceptable. High stakes I'd say as Pep is extremely self-critical and I reckon he would question whether he has done as much as he can with us.

I'd agree with much of this.

Pep should be given the same harsh standards to uphold as the previous two incumbents - both of whom had significantly weaker squads to work with, AND ffp to navigate around .

It's far from over, and I still think we will sneak the title but no doubt last night's arrogant display could be the difference come may.

If we end this season with a league cup then Pep would have the same trophy record as Pellers but with a vastly improved squad and the benefit of the club being run entirely to his preferred rules and standards - a huge benefit over what pellers had to manage with.

We can cut and dice it however we wish, but if that turns out to be the case it would be inarguable to say that pellers was a vastly superior manager for this club. He may not be as cool as pep, but for Manchester City fc he would've proven hisself a much better manager.

If pep wins a league or champs league this year then he would rightly and correctly go down as a true legend of this club for all time . Fine lines .
 
I'd agree with much of this.

Pep should be given the same harsh standards to uphold as the previous two incumbents - both of whom had significantly weaker squads to work with, AND ffp to navigate around .

It's far from over, and I still think we will sneak the title but no doubt last night's arrogant display could be the difference come may.

If we end this season with a league cup then Pep would have the same trophy record as Pellers but with a vastly improved squad and the benefit of the club being run entirely to his preferred rules and standards - a huge benefit over what pellers had to manage with.

We can cut and dice it however we wish, but if that turns out to be the case it would be inarguable to say that pellers was a vastly superior manager for this club. He may not be as cool as pep, but for Manchester City fc he would've proven hisself a much better manager.

If pep wins a league or champs league this year then he would rightly and correctly go down as a true legend of this club for all time . Fine lines .
Worryingly those scouse twats could beat all the records that made last year special, that tarnished Pep’s record further if as you say we end this season with just a league cup.
 
And he really has no right to; Mourinho was told to make do with Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Valencia and an obnoxious assembly of dancing mercenaries - Guardiola’s back 5 alone including Ederson last night cost upwards of £200m. If he can’t coach them to collectively repel about 5 sporadic attacks from a woefully workman-like team of primitives, it’s his problem.

Mourinho got fucked over by that commerce-centric circus of a club, whereas this one has gone above and beyond over the past 4 years to facilitate the kind of practically impossible to fail environment Pep exclusively operates in; anything less than successive titles and a Champions League final appearance(s) is failure, and he’ll be exclusively accountable.



Same as Mancini and Pellegrini, but with infinitely better players, depth of quality and an inherited ‘big club’ mentality.

Rag as raggish it could be.
 
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Worryingly those scouse twats could beat all the records that made last year special, that tarnished Pep’s record further if as you say we end this season with just a league cup.

I know what you mean but it wouldn't change the fact last year was very special. That said, with the way the club has been set up for him for a decade, last year SHOULD have been bloody special . If Klopp gets anywhere even close to what we did last year he would rightly be seen as one of the best managers in the world .Certainly better (for the English game anyway) than Pep.

Pep could and still should make himself a legend with City but if we end up with only the league cup, or worse, this season, to me he would be a failure (given what he's been given to work with and against) and all things being equal, should suffer the same fate as Pellers and Mancini . But he won't. Because he's bigger than the club. And he's cool .
 
I'd agree with much of this.

Pep should be given the same harsh standards to uphold as the previous two incumbents - both of whom had significantly weaker squads to work with, AND ffp to navigate around .

It's far from over, and I still think we will sneak the title but no doubt last night's arrogant display could be the difference come may.

If we end this season with a league cup then Pep would have the same trophy record as Pellers but with a vastly improved squad and the benefit of the club being run entirely to his preferred rules and standards - a huge benefit over what pellers had to manage with.

We can cut and dice it however we wish, but if that turns out to be the case it would be inarguable to say that pellers was a vastly superior manager for this club. He may not be as cool as pep, but for Manchester City fc he would've proven hisself a much better manager.

If pep wins a league or champs league this year then he would rightly and correctly go down as a true legend of this club for all time . Fine lines .
Blimey can’t compare Pep and Pellegrini as much as I like the latter. We have seen some incredible football played under Pep and broke a lot of records. The best football I’ve ever seen in the premier league. We have been dogged by injuries this season and Kevin is still not up to speed, Mendy out, David and Kun both been out for long periods. To win a league a bit of luck also has to come into the picture
 
I think he simply got outwitted by Benitez last night. Newcastle negated us really well, and exploited the fact we weren't focused fully and error prone. Their physicality was impressive. Pep still at fault for not properly motivating the team though, but it wasn't his idea to make all our players decide to consistently get the basics wrong.

On another note, I think him losing out on the title this year might be a catalyst for him to stay at the club a bit longer than whatever he would have done otherwise.

But Mourinho's available if some of you would prefer?
 
I think he simply got outwitted by Benitez last night. Newcastle negated us really well, and exploited the fact we weren't focused fully and error prone. Their physicality was impressive. Pep still at fault for not properly motivating the team though, but it wasn't his idea to make all our players decide to consistently get the basics wrong.

On another note, I think him losing out on the title this year might be a catalyst for him to stay at the club a bit longer than whatever he would have done otherwise.

But Mourinho's available if some of you would prefer?
I think Pep will go after next season though, so it's who do we go for to carry on our recent successes.
 
Blimey can’t compare Pep and Pellegrini as much as I like the latter. We have seen some incredible football played under Pep and broke a lot of records. The best football I’ve ever seen in the premier league. We have been dogged by injuries this season and Kevin is still not up to speed, Mendy out, David and Kun both been out for long periods. To win a league a bit of luck also has to come into the picture
Why cant you compare? Under Pellegrini we scored 156 goals in season I think. Sure it wasnt as good after that but Pellegrini also suffered from injuries. Pellegrini also had aging squad and no power over transfers + FFP restrictions in the 14/15 season as well. Guardiola has not had issues with FFP so far at least. Despite all this, Pep is finding it quite hard to overtake him in terms of trophies in the same time period (3 years). Winning the LC would equal him.

4 defeats in last 9 PL games, we went on similar run in the PL during the horrific 2nd half of the 14/15 season.
 
I get a feeling he won't see out his contract, don't ask me why, I hope I'm wrong.

I would be very surprised at that because he's had 6 previous contracts in his career (4 Barca, 1 Bayern, 1 City) and never left before one ended. At Barcelona he made a point of only having 1 year deals because he never wanted to break a contract when leaving, so when he signed that extension last year it was pretty much a cast iron guarantee.
 
Why cant you compare? Under Pellegrini we scored 156 goals in season I think. Sure it wasnt as good after that but Pellegrini also suffered from injuries. Pellegrini also had aging squad and no power over transfers + FFP restrictions in the 14/15 season as well. Guardiola has not had issues with FFP so far at least. Despite all this, Pep is finding it quite hard to overtake him in terms of trophies in the same time period (3 years). Winning the LC would equal him.

4 defeats in last 9 PL games, we went on similar run in the PL during the horrific 2nd half of the 14/15 season.
Entertainment value that’s why
 
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