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Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.
 
WNRH said:
Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.

Why? He's one of the very best.
 
dobobobo said:
LoveCity said:
Vieira sounds like a nice prospect... organic, holistic, natural... insert other buzzwords.

My only concern/question is, will he really be better than Pellegrini or Mancini?

City seems to idolise the Barcelona way, since we have ex-Barca chiefs in charge who have seen their 'way' work, but to me we have still not had an A+ coach and I worry we could continue to underachieve without one.

So for me, even if Vieira being promoted is the 'holistic' thing to do, I'd have Pep here before him all day long because Pep is a proven winner and has managed two bigger clubs than City, so would be able to handle the job quite well (on paper).

Vieira could turn out as good as Pep... but is that possibility worth risking more years of potential underachievement IF the scenario emerges where we could have either Pep or Vieira?

(or make Vieira his assistant and everyone is happy)

Aye, I share this view too. If Pellegrini is to go then Pep and with Vieira as number 2 would be the way to go for me. Just depends what happens in the summer. Wenger will be gone in the summer, I'm certain of it, so Vieira will either stay or go to Arsenal. I can't see Arsenal taking him on as the main man but I can see him going there as number 2.

The ideal for me would be for Vieira to stay, step up to number 2, and bring some kids with him.

Wenger will sign a new contract and will not leave Arsenal. i'd stake my Cadbury's mini eggs Easter Egg on it.
 
peoffrey said:
WNRH said:
Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.

Why? He's one of the very best.

His teams albeit very successful are one of the most boring sides to watch. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. It's ok in Spain where they chew on sunflower seeds either side of a siesta at the game but here it wouldn't work just like the Bavarians are getting bored of it now.

Messi made Barca exciting to watch not their football.
 
WNRH said:
peoffrey said:
WNRH said:
Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.

Why? He's one of the very best.

His teams albeit very successful are one of the most boring sides to watch. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. It's ok in Spain where they chew on sunflower seeds either side of a siesta at the game but here it wouldn't work just like the Bavarians are getting bored of it now.

Messi made Barca exciting to watch not their football.

would make the journey unbearable, so we just settle for Messi
 
WNRH said:
peoffrey said:
WNRH said:
Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.

Why? He's one of the very best.

His teams albeit very successful are one of the most boring sides to watch. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. It's ok in Spain where they chew on sunflower seeds either side of a siesta at the game but here it wouldn't work just like the Bavarians are getting bored of it now.

Messi made Barca exciting to watch not their football.

Would you prefer hoof and chase? For me, Barca and Bayern have been the best sides around whilst he's been in charge and that's no coincidence. I'd prefer that to Mancini's awful defensive style or Pellegrini's kamikaze football.

Forgive me for asking, but have you mentioned who you would like in charge at City?
 
peoffrey said:
WNRH said:
Please god not Guardiola, i think i would definitely give up my season ticket then if raising cost and shit atmosphere doesn't boot me out earlier.

Why? He's one of the very best.
And one of the most effective.

But also his style of football is boring.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
peoffrey said:
Why? He's one of the very best.
And one of the most effective.

But also his style of football is boring.

Bayern score lots of goals and are nice to watch. Admittedly, Dortmund were better to watch but they're not champions. I'm certain we'd accept a reduction in the excitement if it meant continued success.
 
ElanJo said:
His Barca was the greatest team in history.

The football was artistry and it was unplayable.
They weren't the greatest team in history. They were the best team of the televised era.
 
peoffrey said:
KippaxCitizen said:
peoffrey said:
Why? He's one of the very best.
And one of the most effective.

But also his style of football is boring.

Bayern score lots of goals and are nice to watch. Admittedly, Dortmund were better to watch but they're not champions. I'm certain we'd accept a reduction in the excitement if it meant continued success.

This is what I am settling for.

Chelsea play boring football and grind out results all to often, but they are my favourites to win the league this year. I'd absolutly hate it if City became like Chelsea longterm, but i'm happy to accept it for a period if it means we get established as a successful team.

Milner got it spot on earlier on in the season when we were banging goals in for fun. He said to the media that he would be happy to win more games 1-0 or 2-0, as in grind out results and be consistent. Some times it's not too bad to watch a team be solid and frustrate the fuck out of the likes of Suarez.
 
They landed lucky with a bunch of kids coming through their academy and particularly Messi. Without Messi would they have won so much ?

Let's be honest, it would have been difficult to f*ck up with a team like that.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit but I don't think you can say he was responsible for the emergence of the Barca side.
 
peoffrey said:
KippaxCitizen said:
peoffrey said:
Why? He's one of the very best.
And one of the most effective.

But also his style of football is boring.

Bayern score lots of goals and are nice to watch. Admittedly, Dortmund were better to watch but they're not champions. I'm certain we'd accept a reduction in the excitement if it meant continued success.
Heynckes' Bayern were more exciting to watch than Guardiola's.

With Heynckes's Bayern I'd be glued to the game. With Guardiola's I find myself getting easily distracted, I'll end up coming online and reading something or posting on a forum and then look up if they score. The possession game has become monotonous for me. I'm pretty sick of it.

I've enjoyed Simeone's Altético and Ancelotti's Madrid more than Guardiola's Bayern. It's just pass-pass-pass-pass-pass for the sake of it at times.
 
CITYBOY1000 said:
They landed lucky with a bunch of kids coming through their academy and particularly Messi. Without Messi would they have won so much ?

Let's be honest, it would have been difficult to f*ck up with a team like that.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit but I don't think you can say he was responsible for the emergence of the Barca side.

True, but then he continued that success in the Bundesliga and Champions League.<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 am --<br /><br />
KippaxCitizen said:
peoffrey said:
KippaxCitizen said:
And one of the most effective.

But also his style of football is boring.

Bayern score lots of goals and are nice to watch. Admittedly, Dortmund were better to watch but they're not champions. I'm certain we'd accept a reduction in the excitement if it meant continued success.
Heynckes' Bayern were more exciting to watch than Guardiola's.

With Heynckes's Bayern I'd be glued to the game. With Guardiola's I find myself getting easily distracted, I'll end up coming online and reading something or posting on a forum and then look up if they score. The possession game has become monotonous for me. I'm pretty sick of it.

I've enjoyed Simeone's Altético and Ancelotti's Madrid more than Guardiola's Bayern. It's just pass-pass-pass-pass-pass for the sake of it at times.

And that's what we do at the moment, but without achieveing success. I also, hate the constant passing game, but if we're going to play like that I'd rather had someone with proven success of it.

For me, I prefer Atletico Madrid's and Liverpool's go out blazing at the start to get the goal and then settle down to play solid football. But, i'm happy to wait for that style of play till we become established as a successful team.
 
CITYBOY1000 said:
They landed lucky with a bunch of kids coming through their academy and particularly Messi. Without Messi would they have won so much ?

Let's be honest, it would have been difficult to f*ck up with a team like that.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit but I don't think you can say he was responsible for the emergence of the Barca side.
Puyol Xavi Iniesta and Messi were all in the fist team well before Guardiola got there. They'd already won La Liga and the CL too and the season before he got to Barça they finished second in La Liga and got to the CL semis in a season where eight of their first teamers separated from their wives or partners.

What he took over was already a great side, if not a side full of lost personalities. But he did make them the greatest football side ever, for me. The way they played football was amazing. It was more direct than his current Bayern style. When they beat Madrid 2-6 away and then 5-0 at home a couple of years later and the way they dismantled United a few times...football has never been played better.

But they had the best centre half, the best midfield thee and the best front thee in the world. One of those was the best player in the world. That makes a huge difference to a team.
 
CITYBOY1000 said:
They landed lucky with a bunch of kids coming through their academy and particularly Messi. Without Messi would they have won so much ?

Let's be honest, it would have been difficult to f*ck up with a team like that.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit but I don't think you can say he was responsible for the emergence of the Barca side.

If you understood football you'd realise that he's the greatest tactical innovator of modern times.

He made an entire new position (false 9) to get the best out of Messi. Without him, Messi may have become another Ronaldo or Romario, and not the best of all time.
 
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