pep guardiola

[RandomJ]

I said we should drive a truck full of money to his house previously but now I think we should also give him his own fucking plane if he will join us. We need a top bracket manager.

 

[Maldeika]

I have read so much about people that want Guardiola here as a coach...

I just want to give you a piece of the book Perarnau, who wrote a book about Pep at Bayern, said...

The way Bayern support him is remarkable. Pep is less in charge than he was at Barcelona. Here he’s just the coach, but instead of making him feel uncomfortable, this ‘lesser’ role has been a liberation. His friend, Xavier Sala i Martín, puts it like this: ‘The burnout factor for Pep in Munich is less than at Barcelona because there he had to step into roles which shouldn’t really have been his, due to the lack of leadership there. There were moments when he seemed almost to be the president of Catalunya, the coach of FC Barcelona and the club spokesman. He had to fight accusations of doping, battle Mourinho and deal with UEFA. His work in Munich is much more normal.’
Pep loves his players’ immediate pre-disposition to hard work, the care with which Markus Hörwick prepares the press conferences, the minute detail to which team delegate Kathleen Krüger dedicates herself, the affability with which Hermann Gerland is teaching him about the variety of characteristics the Bundesliga exhibits, the outright passion of Matthias Sammer…

Germany is moulding Pep, who now seems more open, more serene, more disposed to new initiatives with every passing day. He’s not just conceding interviews to the club magazine and television station, but happily lends himself to some of Bayern’s publicity drives. He knows that the business of transfer policy is taken care of in the offices of Rummenigge and Hoeness and he’s just fine with that. ‘Here I’m the coach, full stop, which is very different from Barça. I coach the players, I try to drive the team towards the best results and I’ve got Sammer’s support, which is very important. He’s the key.’


I do not think that Guardiola will leave Bayern that early. He just started. And it is a nearly perfect work environment he has - more than he had it in Barcelona. Money ain't the most important factor - every club who wants to engage him would pay a lot. But I cannot imagine a team that is more ideal for his tactics or a better work environment right now.

 

[Castiel]

I have read so much about people that want Guardiola here as a coach...

I just want to give you a piece of the book Perarnau, who wrote a book about Pep at Bayern, said...

The way Bayern support him is remarkable. Pep is less in charge than he was at Barcelona. Here he’s just the coach, but instead of making him feel uncomfortable, this ‘lesser’ role has been a liberation. His friend, Xavier Sala i Martín, puts it like this: ‘The burnout factor for Pep in Munich is less than at Barcelona because there he had to step into roles which shouldn’t really have been his, due to the lack of leadership there. There were moments when he seemed almost to be the president of Catalunya, the coach of FC Barcelona and the club spokesman. He had to fight accusations of doping, battle Mourinho and deal with UEFA. His work in Munich is much more normal.’
Pep loves his players’ immediate pre-disposition to hard work, the care with which Markus Hörwick prepares the press conferences, the minute detail to which team delegate Kathleen Krüger dedicates herself, the affability with which Hermann Gerland is teaching him about the variety of characteristics the Bundesliga exhibits, the outright passion of Matthias Sammer…

Germany is moulding Pep, who now seems more open, more serene, more disposed to new initiatives with every passing day. He’s not just conceding interviews to the club magazine and television station, but happily lends himself to some of Bayern’s publicity drives. He knows that the business of transfer policy is taken care of in the offices of Rummenigge and Hoeness and he’s just fine with that. ‘Here I’m the coach, full stop, which is very different from Barça. I coach the players, I try to drive the team towards the best results and I’ve got Sammer’s support, which is very important. He’s the key.’


I do not think that Guardiola will leave Bayern that early. He just started. And it is a nearly perfect work environment he has - more than he had it in Barcelona. Money ain't the most important factor - every club who wants to engage him would pay a lot. But I cannot imagine a team that is more ideal for his tactics or a better work environment right now.

He'll get bored and miss fighting with Mourinho.

 

[BillyShears]

I have read so much about people that want Guardiola here as a coach...

I just want to give you a piece of the book Perarnau, who wrote a book about Pep at Bayern, said...

The way Bayern support him is remarkable. Pep is less in charge than he was at Barcelona. Here he’s just the coach, but instead of making him feel uncomfortable, this ‘lesser’ role has been a liberation. His friend, Xavier Sala i Martín, puts it like this: ‘The burnout factor for Pep in Munich is less than at Barcelona because there he had to step into roles which shouldn’t really have been his, due to the lack of leadership there. There were moments when he seemed almost to be the president of Catalunya, the coach of FC Barcelona and the club spokesman. He had to fight accusations of doping, battle Mourinho and deal with UEFA. His work in Munich is much more normal.’
Pep loves his players’ immediate pre-disposition to hard work, the care with which Markus Hörwick prepares the press conferences, the minute detail to which team delegate Kathleen Krüger dedicates herself, the affability with which Hermann Gerland is teaching him about the variety of characteristics the Bundesliga exhibits, the outright passion of Matthias Sammer…

Germany is moulding Pep, who now seems more open, more serene, more disposed to new initiatives with every passing day. He’s not just conceding interviews to the club magazine and television station, but happily lends himself to some of Bayern’s publicity drives. He knows that the business of transfer policy is taken care of in the offices of Rummenigge and Hoeness and he’s just fine with that. ‘Here I’m the coach, full stop, which is very different from Barça. I coach the players, I try to drive the team towards the best results and I’ve got Sammer’s support, which is very important. He’s the key.’


I do not think that Guardiola will leave Bayern that early. He just started. And it is a nearly perfect work environment he has - more than he had it in Barcelona. Money ain't the most important factor - every club who wants to engage him would pay a lot. But I cannot imagine a team that is more ideal for his tactics or a better work environment right now.

It's a fair point of view that Maldeika. I also think when I see his team and his work in Bayern that it's hard to imagine him walking away before his contract is up as a bare minimum. I guess the only question mark is over the competitiveness of the league. If he's won it again by mid March or whenever it was over as a competition last season, I wonder if that might make him question how long he'll stay.

Having said that i wonder whether even when he does leave Bayern, he has the desire to cross swords with Mourinho again.

 

[OB1]

I have read so much about people that want Guardiola here as a coach...

I just want to give you a piece of the book Perarnau, who wrote a book about Pep at Bayern, said...

The way Bayern support him is remarkable. Pep is less in charge than he was at Barcelona. Here he’s just the coach, but instead of making him feel uncomfortable, this ‘lesser’ role has been a liberation. His friend, Xavier Sala i Martín, puts it like this: ‘The burnout factor for Pep in Munich is less than at Barcelona because there he had to step into roles which shouldn’t really have been his, due to the lack of leadership there. There were moments when he seemed almost to be the president of Catalunya, the coach of FC Barcelona and the club spokesman. He had to fight accusations of doping, battle Mourinho and deal with UEFA. His work in Munich is much more normal.’
Pep loves his players’ immediate pre-disposition to hard work, the care with which Markus Hörwick prepares the press conferences, the minute detail to which team delegate Kathleen Krüger dedicates herself, the affability with which Hermann Gerland is teaching him about the variety of characteristics the Bundesliga exhibits, the outright passion of Matthias Sammer…

Germany is moulding Pep, who now seems more open, more serene, more disposed to new initiatives with every passing day. He’s not just conceding interviews to the club magazine and television station, but happily lends himself to some of Bayern’s publicity drives. He knows that the business of transfer policy is taken care of in the offices of Rummenigge and Hoeness and he’s just fine with that. ‘Here I’m the coach, full stop, which is very different from Barça. I coach the players, I try to drive the team towards the best results and I’ve got Sammer’s support, which is very important. He’s the key.’


I do not think that Guardiola will leave Bayern that early. He just started. And it is a nearly perfect work environment he has - more than he had it in Barcelona. Money ain't the most important factor - every club who wants to engage him would pay a lot. But I cannot imagine a team that is more ideal for his tactics or a better work environment right now.

It's a fair point of view that Maldeika. I also think when I see his team and his work in Bayern that it's hard to imagine him walking away before his contract is up as a bare minimum. I guess the only question mark is over the competitiveness of the league. If he's won it again by mid March or whenever it was over as a competition last season, I wonder if that might make him question how long he'll stay.

Having said that i wonder whether even when he does leave Bayern, he has the desire to cross swords with Mourinho again.

Maybe Pep has or will change his mind about England but my understanding is that he learnt English some years ago because he wanted to work in England, eventually.

I would expect that all the things he is enjoying about working in Munich are being fed to Txiki on a regular basis.

 

[BillyShears]

Maybe Pep has or will change his mind about England but my understanding is that he learnt English some years ago because he wanted to work in England, eventually.

I would expect that all the things he is enjoying about working in Munich are being fed to Txiki on a regular basis.

I worry that his relationship with Mourinho was too poisonous and that'll keep him out of the PL while Mou's here. I also think there'll be plenty of pull to go and manage Arsenal or even the rags - who IMO will both be looking for new managers at the end of next season if not before!

This foregone conclusion feels like less and less of a foregone conclusion with each passing day. Maybe the pessimism surrounding City is seeping into my thought patterns.

 

[flb]

We just seem to be the right club at the right time in my opinion, how much motivation can you get in a league where only you can win it? The PL is far more competitive, we have owners he has worked with before, a new training facility La Maisa style with an ex Barcelona coach heading the playing style and a league he has made no secret he wants to manage in. He can take the club to whole new heights and firmly put us on the football map-if anybody will bring kids through from the new facility then its Pep.

Without doubt he would put Maureen firmly in his place both on and off the pitch in my opinion, there's more than enough motivation for him to come to England.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Worried about Mourinho ?

I'm assuming that's a joke.

Chances are he will end up in England, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be next year, in two years, or at City. Of course we have the connection, but he might fancy doing something else. He could stay on five more years at Bayern & then move.

He could come over next year & take over at Arsenal, or the rags, or Chelsea if Mourinho blows it again this season like he did last.

We are obviously a strong candidate but we are not the only one.

 

[BillyShears]

Worried about Mourinho ?

I'm assuming that's a joke.

Why assume it's a joke. Pep's burnout at the end of his time at Barcelona was widely reported, as was the problematic relationship he had with Mourinho. I can fully see someone like him deciding that he doesn't want to deal with Mourinho and his shit on a week by week basis and therefore choosing to wait until Mourinho is done managing in England before coming here. Pep's a young guy and doesn't need to rush into anything he doesn't want to.

 

[adammck]

Our owners would take Pep in a heartbeat.

 

[hgblue]

Our owners would take Pep in a heartbeat.

Of course they would. That's not the issue. The issue is whether he's available or likely to be available in the near to medium term future. I'd like to think that question has been asked and we're in the know about his future intentions. I believe Pep to be the type of person who wouldn't string us along as say a Mourinho would, because we can't afford to wait for him if he's committed to Bayern imo.

 

[BillyShears]

because we can't afford to wait for him if he's committed to Bayern imo.

What makes you say that?

I think we have a perfectly capable title winning manager in charge already. Albeit he's going through a bit of a bad spell as the side are but the international break has done wonders to restore a bit of perspective.

In terms of replacing Pellegrini, it just seems a long way off at present and the shortlist would be Klopp and Pep - beyond that you may as well just write five names like De Boer, Simeone, Koeman, Tuchel, and Garcia down and pick one of them out of a hat.

 

[hgblue]

because we can't afford to wait for him if he's committed to Bayern imo.

What makes you say that?

I think we have a perfectly capable title winning manager in charge already. Albeit he's going through a bit of a bad spell as the side are but the international break has done wonders to restore a bit of perspective.

In terms of replacing Pellegrini, it just seems a long way off at present and the shortlist would be Klopp and Pep - beyond that you may as well just write five names like De Boer, Simeone, Koeman, Tuchel, and Garcia down and pick one of them out of a hat.

I don't see Pellegrini as the man to take us to the next level, more a safe pair of hands until we appoint the man who will.

I already have, and Simeone came out ;).

 

[BillyShears]

because we can't afford to wait for him if he's committed to Bayern imo.

What makes you say that?

I think we have a perfectly capable title winning manager in charge already. Albeit he's going through a bit of a bad spell as the side are but the international break has done wonders to restore a bit of perspective.

In terms of replacing Pellegrini, it just seems a long way off at present and the shortlist would be Klopp and Pep - beyond that you may as well just write five names like De Boer, Simeone, Koeman, Tuchel, and Garcia down and pick one of them out of a hat.

I don't see Pellegrini as the man to take us to the next level, more a safe pair of hands until we appoint the man who will.

I already have, and Simeone came out ;).

The 'next level' makes for nice forum rhetoric but it's meaningless in reality. Pellegrini's record in the champions league is ten times better than City's. His record in the premier league is one season, two trophies. Baring that in mind, whatever the 'next level' is, if we're not there it's because as a team and a club we're not ready to be there. Not because of the manager.

Sadly for you there's more chance of Lavinda Past becoming City's manager than Simeone. Not that I don't rate him but it's just highly unlikely. Pellegrini will get another shot next season with a much improved squad to the one we currently have. Succession plans are nice in theory, but in practice I would expect the entire club to be focussed on the upcoming two transfer windows to help give the manager the tools he needs to get the club to the 'next level'.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

What makes you say that?

I think we have a perfectly capable title winning manager in charge already. Albeit he's going through a bit of a bad spell as the side are but the international break has done wonders to restore a bit of perspective.

In terms of replacing Pellegrini, it just seems a long way off at present and the shortlist would be Klopp and Pep - beyond that you may as well just write five names like De Boer, Simeone, Koeman, Tuchel, and Garcia down and pick one of them out of a hat.

I don't see Pellegrini as the man to take us to the next level, more a safe pair of hands until we appoint the man who will.

I already have, and Simeone came out ;).

The 'next level' makes for nice forum rhetoric but it's meaningless in reality. Pellegrini's record in the champions league is ten times better than City's. His record in the premier league is one season, two trophies. Baring that in mind, whatever the 'next level' is, if we're not there it's because as a team and a club we're not ready to be there. Not because of the manager.

Sadly for you there's more chance of Lavinda Past becoming City's manager than Simeone. Not that I don't rate him but it's just highly unlikely. Pellegrini will get another shot next season with a much improved squad to the one we currently have. Succession plans are nice in theory, but in practice I would expect the entire club to be focussed on the upcoming two transfer windows to help give the manager the tools he needs to get the club to the 'next level'.

I'm not sure he will get another shot, mate.

Certainly if this malaise continues and there is a lot which can happen between now and the summer.

Still the calm before the storm for me. He's a gentleman and I don't see him receiving much of a rough ride (outside of this forum, anyhow).

Between now and mid January, having also had the outcome of the 3rd round of the FA Cup, a more appropriate landscape will be in evidence.

Unless we back him with serious intent in January, I think the owners are once again in a 'suck it and see' Mancini holding pattern.

 

[BillyShears]

I'm not sure he will get another shot, mate.

Certainly if this malaise continues and there is a lot which can happen between now and the summer.

Still the calm before the storm for me. He's a gentleman and I don't see him receiving much of a rough ride (outside of this forum, anyhow).

Between now and mid January, having also had the outcome of the 3rd round of the FA Cup, a more appropriate landscape will be in evidence.

Unless we back him with serious intent in January, I think the owners are once again in a 'suck it and see' Mancini holding pattern.

My feelings come from the innate belief that everyone hasn't overnight become shit and unsettled working with Pellegrini. I'd expect a serious upturn in league form and I expect us to mount a title challenge which goes to the final couple of months of the season. Seems a distant prospect now but I don't believe Chelsea to be good enough to go the season unbeaten.

You are right about the next 6/8 weeks allowing for the lay of the land to be fully digested. I just think at the end of that period we'll be much more optimistic than we currently are.

In terms of business in January. Only Barkley would be worth the money/hassle. Everyone else we should wait until the summer for. Unless we get out of our CL group, in which case I might revise that slightly!

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

GWAAARRRRDIOWWWWLLLAAA

At least he'll bring a Baaaarrcaaaaa styyyyyyle

 

[lancs blue]

I don't see Pellegrini as the man to take us to the next level, more a safe pair of hands until we appoint the man who will.

I already have, and Simeone came out ;).

The 'next level' makes for nice forum rhetoric but it's meaningless in reality. Pellegrini's record in the champions league is ten times better than City's. His record in the premier league is one season, two trophies. Baring that in mind, whatever the 'next level' is, if we're not there it's because as a team and a club we're not ready to be there. Not because of the manager.

Sadly for you there's more chance of Lavinda Past becoming City's manager than Simeone. Not that I don't rate him but it's just highly unlikely. Pellegrini will get another shot next season with a much improved squad to the one we currently have. Succession plans are nice in theory, but in practice I would expect the entire club to be focussed on the upcoming two transfer windows to help give the manager the tools he needs to get the club to the 'next level'.

I'm not sure he will get another shot, mate.

Certainly if this malaise continues and there is a lot which can happen between now and the summer.

Still the calm before the storm for me. He's a gentleman and I don't see him receiving much of a rough ride (outside of this forum, anyhow).

Between now and mid January, having also had the outcome of the 3rd round of the FA Cup, a more appropriate landscape will be in evidence.

Unless we back him with serious intent in January, I think the owners are once again in a 'suck it and see' Mancini holding pattern.

If that happens we basically write off another season as we did in 12/13, the players will be familiar with the "dead man walking" scenario and it gets reflected on the pitch. Unless the execs have a nailed on replacement lined up for the summer it may be better to be ruthless if form doesn't improve between now and mid-Jan.

 

[BillyShears]

If that happens we basically write off another season as we did in 12/13, the players will be familiar with the "dead man walking" scenario and it gets reflected on the pitch. Unless the execs have a nailed on replacement lined up for the summer it may be better to be ruthless if form doesn't improve between now and mid-Jan.

I actually agree with that point of view wholeheartedly. It was stupid to leave Mancini in charge for four months knowing you were going to sack him and the exact same applies to Pellegrini. IF, and it's a huge IF which to me right now isn't likely, things go absolutely tits up in the next 6 weeks, then just fire him straight away and move on.

I personally think it's much more damaging to the club, to moral, and even to future planning, to have a guy in charge you know you're going to sack.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I'm not sure he will get another shot, mate.

Certainly if this malaise continues and there is a lot which can happen between now and the summer.

Still the calm before the storm for me. He's a gentleman and I don't see him receiving much of a rough ride (outside of this forum, anyhow).

Between now and mid January, having also had the outcome of the 3rd round of the FA Cup, a more appropriate landscape will be in evidence.

Unless we back him with serious intent in January, I think the owners are once again in a 'suck it and see' Mancini holding pattern.

My feelings come from the innate belief that everyone hasn't overnight become shit and unsettled working with Pellegrini. I'd expect a serious upturn in league form and I expect us to mount a title challenge which goes to the final couple of months of the season. Seems a distant prospect now but I don't believe Chelsea to be good enough to go the season unbeaten.

You are right about the next 6/8 weeks allowing for the lay of the land to be fully digested. I just think at the end of that period we'll be much more optimistic than we currently are.

In terms of business in January. Only Barkley would be worth the money/hassle. Everyone else we should wait until the summer for. Unless we get out of our CL group, in which case I might revise that slightly!

I think the biggest indictment at present is we don't know what to expect from this team in terms of both performance or results?

There are plenty of examples in sport where individuals or teams can still be considered a top-level performer, based on what has previously come to pass, but are not really capable of reaching the same heights.

I am a huge tennis fan and Federer is a freak of nature, a craftsman, good enough to beat most, but I know deep down it is Djokovic who is now calling the tune.

You have rightly pointed out in the past that there is no happy medium with this City team. It is either on a different planet or giving the impression of strangers who have met for the first time.

Perhaps both Manuel and this group of players need to have these questions now posed of them to see how we progress as a club, with or without them.