Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

[Neville Kneville]

They couldn't actually, BT etc will be in charge of the crowd mics and as they showed last year against PSG and Real at home, they like the controversy it generates. You think the media will turn their noses up at a free headline on the instructions of a body the vast majority of their audience have nothing but contempt for one way or the other?

BT have actually turned down the crowd mics before on City so there would be no problem doing it again. Same as there's no problem micing up the Kop.

 

[aguero93:20]

BT have actually turned down the crowd mics before on City so there would be no problem doing it again. Same as there's no problem micing up the Kop.

I'm well aware of that after rewatching games I've attended that they've covered. They turned up the mics when we played PSG though, I could clearly hear the anthem at the game yet it's nearly completely drowned out on the broadcast.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I'm well aware of that after rewatching games I've attended that they've covered. They turned up the mics when we played PSG though, I could clearly hear the anthem at the game yet it's nearly completely drowned out on the broadcast.

Exactly. So if someone from UEFA has a word, it's done.

Truth is, they don't give a fuck, so will never do it. It was just one simpleton who thought he could make a name for himself by talking about us being sanctioned. UEFA threw it out. It was an embarrassment for them which gave us publicity.

That was the peak interst of our booing episode. Now it is old hat & dying a slow death & we will end up with nothing, unless we get on it now & do something else.

 

[Pam]

I am reviewing my stance on the booing thing. Here is an article about the influence of the Gill creature; plus the grand old clubs of Europe. It also mentions that Barca booed the anthem before the Celtic game (admittedly for their own reasons). I wonder if they''ll do so again when they get to our place. Perhaps Pep should say something about all this, maybe.

Respect has to be earned. Bunch of UEFA criminals.

http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=51934&start=0

 

[aguero93:20]

Exactly. So if someone from UEFA has a word, it's done.

Not quite, the BT are UEFA's paymasters, you've got things arseways there I'm afraid.

 

[kaz7]

I am reviewing my stance on the booing thing. Here is an article about the influence of the Gill creature; plus the grand old clubs of Europe. It mentions that Barca booed the anthem before the Celtic game (admittedly for their own reasons).. I think Pep should say something about all this, maybe.

Bunch of UEFA criminals.

http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=51934&start=0

Barca have been booing them for ages and it has no effect on their players or on ours,so in my view carry on,it's down to pep to understand why

 

[Pam]

Barca have been booing them for ages and it has no effect on their players or on ours,so in my view carry on,it's down to pep to understand why

Bloody strange that this was so ignored by the corrupt, twatty media, that it's the first I've heard of it. Two-faced fornicators. Make me feel better in a way, though.

Also, booing didn't harm our performance any more than the Barca players. Still think we should chant or poznan our way through their poxy anthem, though. When we did the Poznan before the S/F at Wembley when scum team was being announced, it went down like a storm. It was brilliant.

 

[Kerry bai]

22 thousand empty seats at Barca vs Celtic last night.

What are you getting at with posting the attendance from a random game?

Barca never sell out ( excluding classico ) and 73k fans is above average for them in the CL group stages.

 

[Chris in London]

Exactly. So if someone from UEFA has a word, it's done.

Truth is, they don't give a fuck, so will never do it. It was just one simpleton who thought he could make a name for himself by talking about us being sanctioned. UEFA threw it out. It was an embarrassment for them which gave us publicity.

That was the peak interst of our booing episode. Now it is old hat & dying a slow death & we will end up with nothing, unless we get on it now & do something else.

I think this massively underestimates how self important and pompous they are at UEFA, and I think it is almost certainly what did not happen.

Mark Halsey recently confirmed what we all suspected, namely that he was told what to say in a match report because the decision had been made higher up the food chain that they wanted to take action about a particular issue. That was in relation to PGMOL but I think you have to be naive to think that does not go on at UEFA level as well.

The booing was not a new thing in November last year when the possibility of charging us arose. It had been done on a number of occasions previously, and had been commented on at some length in the media. Booing the UEFA anthem however is a disciplinary offence - that is why they wanted to charge us in the first place. (The self important nature of UEFA in this respect can be seen from the fact that UEFA's regulations prohibit the crowd from booing the opposition's national anthem at an international match - which you can understand - OR the booing of UEFA's anthem. So these jumped up little knobheads place their little piece of corporate branding on the same level and as deserving of respect as God Save the Queen, Deutschland Uber Alles, La Marseillaise and all the other national anthems that have inspired billions in times of war and peace.)

The idea that every single UEFA official observing a City match since the booing began missed this clear disciplinary offence, but then one guy decided to mention it where no others had seems to me to beggar belief. The reality seems to me that UEFA decided that their dignity was being offended and the guilty party would be charged. Whether they previously ignored it in the match reports and this time decided to take action, or whether they wanted to act and (a la Mark Halsey) told the official what to put in his report seems to me to be as broad as it is long. They had decided enough was enough. Equally, I cannot remember an occasion on which UEFA has opened a disciplinary investigation and then not followed it through with a charge. (Or the FA for that matter). But this time, following a series of extremely adverse articles in the media, they wisely decided not to follow through with this particularly petty and vindictive action.

The idea that some suit at UEFA went off on a frolic of his own and was then put back in his box by UEFA seems to me to be incredible - as in, incapable of being believed. They wanted to charge us, but they bottled it when they saw the shitstorm they had kicked up.

 

[OB1]

All of that is true. But our "protest" doesn't exist in a vacuum. It will effect players and the manager if it goes on on match days. In that respect it's not really about him being the messiah. It's about him wanting to create something on match days. Full stadium , strong vocal support etc. Our fight with UEFA should never compromise the team. Now I'm not saying it has done or will. But at the same time it's not an excuse you want to give the players and management. If ANY manager asks matchday supporters to do something it's hard to justify simply ignoring them.

I'd agree.

My own opinion is that it is time to quit booing the anthem. I think we have made a point but I am not aware of it changing anything and I don't see that it will. Maybe I have missed something but it seems like an isolated gesture.

I think the players do deserve a full stadium but attending midweek games is generally difficult for me, despite being on the cup scheme, and everyone has their own circumstances to deal with that mean they cannot go to every game but you'd like to think that we have people beyond the regulars who could take up the slack. With Pep in charge, we will hopefully continue to attract more people to games.