Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

[Neville Kneville]

Bayern have also been doing it, plus refusing to take their seats until the anthem is over, Atleti boo it, hasn't hurt either team.

Nor UEFA.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Which actually translates as: we can't be arsed.

Eh?

No, it means why would we make more effort for less impact? It makes no logical sense.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

A full two weeks prior to the action was dropped, Infantno said: “They are booing their team, they are booing opponents, they are booing the Uefa Champions League anthem.

“We have to not be offended by it, live with it and to make things always better and try to prove and show people what is down in our heart is football basically.”

UEFA had no interest in charging City, it was just some **** from Iceland who put it in the report.

It was the best publicity we will ever get unless we actually organise a real protest, which nobody is bothered enough to do.

Surely this is what is required NN but it is the organisation of the protest which appears to be the stumbling block.

To have any meaningful impact it would need to be a properly co-ordinated protest with serious numbers of supporters being involved. Otherwise a half-hearted protest would simply suggest that the majority of our supporters do not care, and thus would be easily dismissed by UEFA.

I cannot believe / understand if indeed they are, that our management are taking a passive role in this matter, but there appears to be little evidence to suggest otherwise. Maybe one of the itk's would be able to confirm what the management stance is ?

 

[aguero93:20]

I have no leg to stand on, since i'm american

Heard that's a problem over there, with the wars and the diabetes etc. You should get one of those mobility scooters the fat cunts all have.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Eh?

No, it means why would we make more effort for less impact? It makes no logical sense.

Because the idea that targeting people such as Gill & putting their duplicity in the public eye would be of no interest to anyone, is absolute nonsense.

But nobody cares enough to do anything like that. Booing is easy. We can see that from Bayern Barca & whoever else does it, that we don't notice here.

But of course they are all there waiting for us to do it, so they can discuss it. Because we are so important compared to them.

The only reason it's actually news is down to Pep. And the only reason it will be news next time is that it will be reported by the rag media as defiance against him.

But knock yourselves out.

Pep might change his mind with a bit of luck then we can all boo & continue not making any difference without going against him. Otherwise, the media will report it as us ignoring him, even if only 12 of you do it.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Just out of curiosity what exactly are you protesting against ? Ticket prices are set by City. Leaving aside the piss take of not allowing supporters into the ground in Russia but letting Russians in, everything else which we have a problem with UEFA about is directly related to the club not the supporters. It's the club who would've been fined for booing. It's the players who were affected by the racist chanting in Porto. It's the club who felt the effect of FFP.

I would understand the strong sentiment towards booing if UEFA were doing things specifically to City supporters to fuck with us. But they're not. They are just UEFA, a shitty corrupt badly run organisation. The problem is the club's problem rather than our problem directly. And now the club's manager is asking that we leave it and simply support the team on CL nights.

Sorry but I completely disagree and was quite annoyed listening to the discussion on the podcast in the car this morning.

Someone on the panel (might have been Howard) said the booing was originally tongue in cheek. Well it definitely wasn't and it's irritating that City fans still don't know this. It started after both our fans and those of Bayern were shafted by UEFA in Moscow, having been allowed to buy tickets and visas as well as book travel and accommodation, then refused compensation. When we played Bayern after that was the first time we booed the "anthem".

You were right that the threat to fine us just exacerbated things though.

Having said that, the podcast is still the best listening by far for any Blue.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Surely this is what is required NN but it is the organisation of the protest which appears to be the stumbling block.

To have any meaningful impact it would need to be a properly co-ordinated protest with serious numbers of supporters being involved. Otherwise a half-hearted protest would simply suggest that the majority of our supporters do not care, and thus would be easily dismissed by UEFA.

I cannot believe / understand if indeed they are, that our management are taking a passive role in this matter, but there appears to be little evidence to suggest otherwise. Maybe one of the itk's would be able to confirm what the management stance is ?

The way to do it would be to get together with all fans & protest about UEFA even outside the Champions League, & out the individuals involved. Name the people who are trying to bend football to suit their clubs.

But people don't actually care that much to do it. It's just posturing. Most are just having a laugh by booing & aren't even serious.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I have no leg to stand on, since i'm american and have never made it over for a game. That being said, the atmosphere has gotten noticeably worse on the TV since city won the title in 2012. Maybe that euphoric moment ruined it for the short-term future. How can that drama ever be replicated? In that sense, I can empathize - for the short-term.

It's pretty evident on here that ticket prices have increased dramatically since that season. I can only imagine some fans are priced out, or have just decided its not worth it for the current prices. Again, it is easy to empathize with you all on that.

I don't know what the solution is, but it seems obvious to me that getting young people into games should be a top priority. The system isn't the same over here with university sports, but it is no coincidence that the best atmospheres are college (american) football games. My university has over 38,000 students packed into one side of the stadium. It is the largest student section in the country in a stadium that holds over 100k, so its not a fair comparison, but it is no wonder we are constantly one of the loudest stadiums in all of american sports. Student's get discounted pricing (of course which is subsidized my higher prices elsewhere in the stadium). There are guys that lead the chants from the field throughout the games. This video is from AFTER the game from a few weeks ago. It helps when you win, but there are usually that many people left after a loss. Win and lose, together (1:17 mark it gets good).



The "emptihad" jeer is a growing trend around the states. EVERYWHERE I go now, it is brought up when I mention I'm a city fan when I'm watching games at various bars. I have no retort. Games are quite, attendance is visibly low, and the stands appear half empty with 5 minutes to go. "Better beat the traffic, since the rest of my day is so damn important!"

I never complain about this on here because in some ways, I am part of the problem. One day I will make it over for a number of games, and then hopefully I can be part of the solution.

Well you could say that last season we had the third highest average attendance in England and 9th in all Europe and also our biggest yearly average of all time? You could also mention that we are the fastest growing club in all sports in the World.

It's just cup games the rest is media rubbish because the other clubs can't compete with us on the field.

 

[Sir peace frog]

I have no leg to stand on, since i'm american and have never made it over for a game. That being said, the atmosphere has gotten noticeably worse on the TV since city won the title in 2012. Maybe that euphoric moment ruined it for the short-term future. How can that drama ever be replicated? In that sense, I can empathize - for the short-term.

It's pretty evident on here that ticket prices have increased dramatically since that season. I can only imagine some fans are priced out, or have just decided its not worth it for the current prices. Again, it is easy to empathize with you all on that.

I don't know what the solution is, but it seems obvious to me that getting young people into games should be a top priority. The system isn't the same over here with university sports, but it is no coincidence that the best atmospheres are college (american) football games. My university has over 38,000 students packed into one side of the stadium. It is the largest student section in the country in a stadium that holds over 100k, so its not a fair comparison, but it is no wonder we are constantly one of the loudest stadiums in all of american sports. Student's get discounted pricing (of course which is subsidized my higher prices elsewhere in the stadium). There are guys that lead the chants from the field throughout the games. This video is from AFTER the game from a few weeks ago. It helps when you win, but there are usually that many people left after a loss. Win and lose, together (1:17 mark it gets good).



The "emptihad" jeer is a growing trend around the states. EVERYWHERE I go now, it is brought up when I mention I'm a city fan when I'm watching games at various bars. I have no retort. Games are quite, attendance is visibly low, and the stands appear half empty with 5 minutes to go. "Better beat the traffic, since the rest of my day is so damn important!"

I never complain about this on here because in some ways, I am part of the problem. One day I will make it over for a number of games, and then hopefully I can be part of the solution.

fuck me that sounds fucking horrible

 

[Shaelumstash]

Because the idea that targeting people such as Gill & putting their duplicity in the public eye would be of no interest to anyone, is absolute nonsense.

But nobody cares enough to do anything like that. Booing is easy. We can see that from Bayern Barca & whoever else does it, that we don't notice here.

But of course they are all there waiting for us to do it, so they can discuss it. Because we are so important compared to them.

The only reason it's actually news is down to Pep. And the only reason it will be news next time is that it will be reported by the rag media as defiance against him.

But knock yourselves out.

Pep might change his mind with a bit of luck then we can all boo & continue not making any difference without going against him. Otherwise, the media will report it as us ignoring him, even if only 12 of you do it.

Mate, if you think coming up with a chant about David Gill is going to have an impact, knock yourself out. Try and get it going on the stands, do a Youtube video, whatever you think will have an impact. Personally, I don't think it's going to work.

Booing for 30 seconds does work because all of the newspapers are reporting on it, together with our gripes against UEFA.

I'm not sure if you've actually seen Guardiola's post match interview, but here it is, so you can see what he actually said and understand the context.

He says he "doesn't know" why we boo, he "doesn't understand the reasons" and it is about things that "happened before (he) came here".

If somebody sat down with him and explained the reasons, I'm sure he'd understand fully.

He then goes on to say that he wishes all of the fans would come, the stadium was full and all of the fans sung to help the team. I totally agree with him, I wish that too.

But regarding the club's stance, if you read the various reports this week, they all included a list of our grievances against UEFA. Now either that's total coincidence, or the club have leaked that information to the press in order to gain exposure for our grievances.