Peps Targets

[01cravend]

Well that's yet more proof that people shouldn't look at defensive stats and think they mean anything.

How is that proof?

 

[BigOscar]

How is that proof?

Because you are using stats to "prove" a point that is clearly untrue. Yaya's defensive stats suggest he does a lot of defending, anyone with eyes who has ever watched a game in which he played will clearly be able to tell you that his defending leaves a lot to be desired. Watching games is worth a hell of a lot more than looking at someones stats, especially defensive ones.

 

[01cravend]

Because you are using stats to "prove" a point that is clearly untrue. Yaya's defensive stats suggest he does a lot of defending, anyone with eyes who has ever watched a game in which he played will clearly be able to tell you that his defending leaves a lot to be desired. Watching games is worth a hell of a lot more than looking at someones stats, especially defensive ones.

Yaya has made 13 tackles
Andre Gomes has made 6 tackles

Fernandinho on the other hand has made 48 tackles


If we were to sign a midfielder from Valencia then we should look at Parejo, as he is twice the player.

 

[pudge]

Because you are using stats to "prove" a point that is clearly untrue. Yaya's defensive stats suggest he does a lot of defending, anyone with eyes who has ever watched a game in which he played will clearly be able to tell you that his defending leaves a lot to be desired. Watching games is worth a hell of a lot more than looking at someones stats, especially defensive ones.

If 13 is the true number of tackles it wouldn't make me assume that player does a lot of defending to be fair.

 

[BigOscar]

Yaya has made 13 tackles
Andre Gomes has made 6 tackles

Fernandinho on the other hand has made 48 tackles


If we were to sign a midfielder from Valencia then Parejo is twice the player.

Parejo is about as unsuitable a player for the premier league as you will ever see. He cannot move, he is weak and he gives the ball away in dangerous areas every game. Defensively he is a liability and he lacks the legs to offer anything resembling box to box. He strikes the ball cleanly, but that's about it.

 

[BigOscar]

If 13 is the true number of tackles it wouldn't make me assume that player does a lot of defending to be fair.

It's more that it's apparently (according to WhoScored) the same amount of tackles per game as people like Zabaleta or Kolarov, or twice as many tackles per game as Kompany. Does that mean he "puts his foot in" more than Kompany, or as much as Zaba? Course not

 

[pudge]

It's more that it's apparently (according to WhoScored) the same amount of tackles per game as people like Zabaleta or Kolarov, or twice as many tackles per game as Kompany. Does that mean he "puts his foot in" more than Kompany, or as much as Zaba? Course not

Seems about right

 

[Neville Kneville]

Gomes has made under half the tackles Yaya has this season.. Seems he does anything but stick a foot in

No, he does exactly that. Isn't a def mid, just one who will 'put a foot in' as I said. Big strong lad, skillful quick & also will put a foot in & can probably be quite a tough customer if asked to. More of a creative player normally.

 

[The Richard Wright Fan Club]

It is something I haven't really considered and am guilty of in my mind replicating the Barca and Bayern blueprints, on the other hand there are less teams playing with a big man up front now. Teams like Leicester, Watford and Stoke are playing more with quick counter attacking strikers. Can only think of West Brom off the top of my head relying on set pieces.

Watford are the most direct team in the league.

Edit: not going off stats or what not but from the games I've seen.

 

[blueparrot]

P

Watford are the most direct team in the league.

Edit: not going off stats or what not but from the games I've seen.

possibly but I was talking more about teams throwing set pieces in for big target men and whether a manager new to the premier league would need to adjust his targets to counter that sort of threat.