Peter Fletcher Announces Retirement

[Ticket For Schalke]

He has a ST in 110 2 rows infront of me ;)

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

He's been a big advocator of safe standing and he personally got bollockings from the council official who was telling him fans should be forced to sit and he refused to do that.
Let's hope the incumbent is as relaxed with standing as Fletcher was or there maybe a ''Bring Peter Back'' campaign!

 

[sktooblue]

Good riddance. I think he has jumped before being pushed. I understand there have been some out of court settlements recently (with confidentially clauses attached) due to the way he has handled supporters. If you are suspected of committing an offence, the police have the right to arrest you whilst they conduct their investigation - they may well never charge you with any offence. If they feel that you pose a threat to public order they can request that as part of your bail conditions, you are prohibited from attended matches. This method is a tried and tested method used up and down the country where there is an established legal framework. Peter Fletcher (MCFC) and GMP have operated another system altogether, whereby if you have ANY involvement in a police investigation, irrespective of whether charged or not, or ever likely to be charged - you are automatically suspended without the opportunity to present your version of events. I understand that that there are some concerns over the legality of this method and that the FSF have been inundated with complaints.

 

[Goats left knee]

This fella should go satisfy his needs clamping cars or the sort

 

[johnbmcr]

Good riddance. I think he has jumped before being pushed. I understand there have been some out of court settlements recently (with confidentially clauses attached) due to the way he has handled supporters. If you are suspected of committing an offence, the police have the right to arrest you whilst they conduct their investigation - they may well never charge you with any offence. If they feel that you pose a threat to public order they can request that as part of your bail conditions, you are prohibited from attended matches. This method is a tried and tested method used up and down the country where there is an established legal framework. Peter Fletcher (MCFC) and GMP have operated another system altogether, whereby if you have ANY involvement in a police investigation, irrespective of whether charged or not, or ever likely to be charged - you are automatically suspended without the opportunity to present your version of events. I understand that that there are some concerns over the legality of this method and that the FSF have been inundated with complaints.

the bans are sadly perfectly legal but open to challenge



he current legislative framework in England and Wales of enforcement action against football related violence and disorder is contained in the Football Spectators Act 1989 (the FSA) as amended by Football (Disorder) Act 2000. The following are the main features;

The FSA allows the police to arrest and prevent persons identified as potential troublemakers from travelling abroad to attend regulated football matches. See the section on police powers.
The police may also apply for football banning orders to prevent attendance at regulated football matches, whether played at home or abroad.
Football banning orders may be made on conviction for a relevant offence or as a result of a civil application based on past conduct which has not necessarily resulted in a criminal conviction. See the section on court powers.
A person made the subject of a football banning order has to comply with directions given by the Football Banning Orders Authority - most notably, to attend a police station and/or surrender a passport at specified times.




http://www.footballbanningorders.net/overview.htm

 

[Skashion]

A ban between the club and you will tend to be a civil matter, and if you think the club has no evidence against you, issue a summons and go and collect damages.

 

[johnbmcr]

A ban between the club and you will tend to be a civil matter, and if you think the club has no evidence against you, issue a summons and go and collect damages.

the club can ban who they like its not a public space so they can pick and choose who they want to let in bit like your house

 

[Skashion]

A ban between the club and you will tend to be a civil matter, and if you think the club has no evidence against you, issue a summons and go and collect damages.

the club can ban who they like its not a public space so they can pick and choose who they want to let in bit like your house

If they've got a contract with you i.e. a season ticket, to admit you for so many games, and they breach it, you'll be able to collect damages. They can't just take your money and tell you to fuck off unless you breached the contract, and can prove that you did on the basis of the balance of evidence. I'd say to anyone, if they've been banned for something they know they did not do, and thus the club have no evidence against them, issue a summons. Do not piss about, issue a summons and go and collect damages.

 

[sktooblue]

Good riddance. I think he has jumped before being pushed. I understand there have been some out of court settlements recently (with confidentially clauses attached) due to the way he has handled supporters. If you are suspected of committing an offence, the police have the right to arrest you whilst they conduct their investigation - they may well never charge you with any offence. If they feel that you pose a threat to public order they can request that as part of your bail conditions, you are prohibited from attended matches. This method is a tried and tested method used up and down the country where there is an established legal framework. Peter Fletcher (MCFC) and GMP have operated another system altogether, whereby if you have ANY involvement in a police investigation, irrespective of whether charged or not, or ever likely to be charged - you are automatically suspended without the opportunity to present your version of events. I understand that that there are some concerns over the legality of this method and that the FSF have been inundated with complaints.

the bans are sadly perfectly legal but open to challenge



he current legislative framework in England and Wales of enforcement action against football related violence and disorder is contained in the Football Spectators Act 1989 (the FSA) as amended by Football (Disorder) Act 2000. The following are the main features;

The FSA allows the police to arrest and prevent persons identified as potential troublemakers from travelling abroad to attend regulated football matches. See the section on police powers.
The police may also apply for football banning orders to prevent attendance at regulated football matches, whether played at home or abroad.
Football banning orders may be made on conviction for a relevant offence or as a result of a civil application based on past conduct which has not necessarily resulted in a criminal conviction. See the section on court powers.
A person made the subject of a football banning order has to comply with directions given by the Football Banning Orders Authority - most notably, to attend a police station and/or surrender a passport at specified times.




http://www.footballbanningorders.net/overview.htm

Don't disagree with anything you have put there but that all relates to banning orders applied for by the police and issued by the courts. The point I was making was that this is not the way MCFC & GMP have operated. Put simply, they have acted as judge and jury for any supporters unlucky enough to have had even a tenuous link to a police investigation. Anyone is this position could find themselves suspended until the police investigation is concluded.

 

[WhittlesBlue]

I have never met Mr Fletcher and haven't have never seen any problems at city but where I sit in the second tier no one stands, but outside of city I work at music Gigs and have to say want a bunch of knobs show sec are, the problem at city was never him it's these bunch of rent a thugs !