Peter Walton..

Thaksinssoldier said:
No that’s an overly simplistic look at it.

The fact of it is Mings touches the ball twice, and the second movement took him into Rodri. He was deemed to be in control of the ball, which kills the offside. But Mings could argue he was forced into the error on his first touch, and if that’s the case it is offside. It’s made messier because Mings looks at the other CB, but could argue he was actually looking back at Rodri.

Eitherway absolutely shite defending so I’m delighted :-)
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Deemed to be in control? Where does it say that in the rules? It's really, really fucking simple. When Mings purposefully chests the ball under no pressure from Rodri, the game goes into the next phase.
 
The fact that this ex-ref is employed by BT and his first thought was that it was offside, to then realise he had got it wrong according to the actual rules says it all.

Then the bt bus ran with sulky arse comments about it should not have stood


Let's rewind back to the handball goal against spurs in the CL, and they couldn't give 2 fucks it was scored

Says it all.

But remember the fact that they know we are getting back to our form (although I would say we are still in around 3rd gear) makes them squirm and all their bitterness rises to the top for everyone to see
 
We would be on page 156 of the John Moss is a fat **** thread if that goal was awarded at the other end and you're a liar if you say differently. It was a scandalous goal made worse by officials and broadcasters doubling down on their mistakes and looking for creative ways to explain away their incompetence. This is the type of hypocrisy that allows the PGMOL to operate as they as do. Peter Walton like all ex refs back the final decision every time because they're twats. The laws they read out don't include anything about proximity or distance like the PL statement mentioned.

In this clip below from last night the exact same thing happens, look at the body language of Ronaldo, his team mate, the ref and the defender, all 100% certain the flag is about to go up because they have all seen it a million times in their careers. Shame this is the talking point that was a great watch, I haven't enjoyed many neutral games during lockdown but that one was old skool with the pitch, the slips, the muddy faces.

Jake Humphrey (@mrjakehumphrey) Tweeted:
Meanwhile...this was given offside tonight...‍♂️ https://t.co/9oNnLOVDUj
 
It seems I was incorrect. Walton never said apparently so I apologise for posting mis-information.
 
BobbyBoy said:
We would be on page 156 of the John Moss is a fat **** thread if that goal was awarded at the other end and you're a liar if you say differently. It was a scandalous goal made worse by officials and broadcasters doubling down on their mistakes and looking for creative ways to explain away their incompetence. This is the type of hypocrisy that allows the PGMOL to operate as they as do. Peter Walton like all ex refs back the final decision every time because they're twats. The laws they read out don't include anything about proximity or distance like the PL statement mentioned.

In this clip below from last night the exact same thing happens, look at the body language of Ronaldo, his team mate, the ref and the defender, all 100% certain the flag is about to go up because they have all seen it a million times in their careers. Shame this is the talking point that was a great watch, I haven't enjoyed many neutral games during lockdown but that one was old skool with the pitch, the slips, the muddy faces.

Jake Humphrey (@mrjakehumphrey) Tweeted:
Meanwhile...this was given offside tonight...‍♂️ https://t.co/9oNnLOVDUj
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Learn the fucking rules ffs.

Were you crying when Kane got a pen v Liverpool when Lovren sliced his clearance to an offside Kane? No, not because you're a Spurs but because it's an easy to understand rule if you know a single thing about football. Back to Chas and Dave.

From 5min 34 secs



EDIT: Sorry didn't see the one above.
 
BobbyBoy said:
We would be on page 156 of the John Moss is a fat **** thread if that goal was awarded at the other end and you're a liar if you say differently. It was a scandalous goal made worse by officials and broadcasters doubling down on their mistakes and looking for creative ways to explain away their incompetence. This is the type of hypocrisy that allows the PGMOL to operate as they as do. Peter Walton like all ex refs back the final decision every time because they're twats. The laws they read out don't include anything about proximity or distance like the PL statement mentioned.

In this clip below from last night the exact same thing happens, look at the body language of Ronaldo, his team mate, the ref and the defender, all 100% certain the flag is about to go up because they have all seen it a million times in their careers. Shame this is the talking point that was a great watch, I haven't enjoyed many neutral games during lockdown but that one was old skool with the pitch, the slips, the muddy faces.

Jake Humphrey (@mrjakehumphrey) Tweeted:
Meanwhile...this was given offside tonight...‍♂️ https://t.co/9oNnLOVDUj
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How is applying the laws of the game correctly a scandalous decision?

I’d suggest checking the actual laws of the game before you make a fool of yourself in future bud
 
Maly Wilson said:
How is applying the laws of the game correctly a scandalous decision?

I’d suggest checking the actual laws of the game before you make a fool of yourself in future bud
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Or better still tell the twat to go and troll a gooner site and fuck off
 
jay_mcfc said:
Learn the fucking rules ffs.

Were you crying when Kane got a pen v Liverpool when Lovren sliced his clearance to an offside Kane? No, not because you're a Spurs but because it's an easy to understand rule if you know a single thing about football. Back to Chas and Dave.

From 5min 34 secs



EDIT: Sorry didn't see the one above.
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It's the same ref and there was another video doing the rounds at the time showing him in conversation with his linesman and he wasn't sure of the laws either. Kane done the decent thing and missed the penalty anyway, we're sound like that.
 
BobbyBoy said:
It's the same ref and there was another video doing the rounds at the time showing him in conversation with his linesman and he wasn't sure of the laws either. Kane done the decent thing and missed the penalty anyway, we're sound like that.
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If Rodri had been ruled offside then it would prevent all goals where a goalkeeper fumbles the ball or a defender loses control giving it to an attacking player in an offside position. In these instances the forward is played onside. Rodri won the ball after Mings lost control. The frozen frame also shows clearly that Rodri was actually onside when Mings gifted it to him in any event. It is 100 per cent a goal and within the rules. What confused people was that Rodri came from behind Mings but in the past I have seen attacking players do this to goalkeepers who take too many touches. Once the goalkeeper plays the ball it is in play. This rule has been around for decades.
 
BobbyBoy said:
We would be on page 156 of the John Moss is a fat **** thread if that goal was awarded at the other end and you're a liar if you say differently. It was a scandalous goal made worse by officials and broadcasters doubling down on their mistakes and looking for creative ways to explain away their incompetence. This is the type of hypocrisy that allows the PGMOL to operate as they as do. Peter Walton like all ex refs back the final decision every time because they're twats. The laws they read out don't include anything about proximity or distance like the PL statement mentioned.

In this clip below from last night the exact same thing happens, look at the body language of Ronaldo, his team mate, the ref and the defender, all 100% certain the flag is about to go up because they have all seen it a million times in their careers. Shame this is the talking point that was a great watch, I haven't enjoyed many neutral games during lockdown but that one was old skool with the pitch, the slips, the muddy faces.

Jake Humphrey (@mrjakehumphrey) Tweeted:
Meanwhile...this was given offside tonight...‍♂️ https://t.co/9oNnLOVDUj
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Why do you feel the need to come on here opining the goal ?

its no skin off your nose, you’re not even in contention this season...

scandalous my arse, he was played on by the defender. An unfortunate goal but legitimate non the less.

jog on now...
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
If Rodri had been ruled offside then it would prevent all goals where a goalkeeper fumbles the ball or a defender loses control giving it to an attacking player in an offside position. In these instances the forward is played onside. Rodri won the ball after Mings lost control. The frozen frame also shows clearly that Rodri was actually onside when Mings gifted it to him in any event. It is 100 per cent a goal and within the rules. What confused people was that Rodri came from behind Mings but in the past I have seen attacking players do this to goalkeepers who take too many touches. Once the goalkeeper plays the ball it is in play. This rule has been around for decades.
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The goalkeeper fumble is an interesting one to mention because that is the most common one and is ruled out every time. It comes down to the interpretation of "ball under control", if a keeper blocks a shot he clearly doesn't have control of it but if he parries it to his feet does the attacker have the right to tackle him before he gathers it? We all know the answer is no, so its the same for Mings. Does he have control of the ball? I would say clearly not because by the time its at his foot Rodri is on top of him, exact same as the clip I posted above of Ronaldo. At the very least the decision is subjective based on opinion and not fact. The ref should have looked at it and decided for himself if Mings had it under control.
 
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