PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

terraloon said:
It actually isn’t
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It really is mate. For starters, your assumption that everyone attending & giving evidence are likely to all have English as their first language is completely incorrect

Khaldoon as Chairman may give evidence & I’m pretty certain he’ll be attending

Ferran Soriano as CEO may give evidence & again, pretty certain he’ll be attending too

Neither speak English as their first language, so how can it possibly be relevant that everyone attending & giving evidence will have English as their first language, when that’s not even true?
Maybe an Etihad rep, or Eiselt rep, or Mancini will give evidence. Will they all have English as a first language? Nope

No idea what your point about English & Swiss law is, unless you’re alluding to the fact that CAS is based in Switzerland & if it were based in the UK, we wouldn’t have won?

However, guessing you have no idea that the arbitrators & clerk for the CAS case were from Portugal, France, Switzerland & Holland? Or that UEFA used barristers from UK AND Switzerland? Or that English, French & Spanish are the 3 languages used at any CAS case?

CAS isn’t a kangaroo court mate, so what difference do you envisage this panel of 3 of English speakers, with at least one of the panel being a UK trained lawyer, will make?

Edit: Forgot the most important part: No evidence was the verdict at CAS for all charges brought within time & it doesn’t matter what language you speak, or what country you studied law in, no evidence means no evidence

You write well mate, but you know the square root of fuck all on this subject ya dirty cockerney twat ;)
 
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Iassel said:
Absolutely 0% chance in my personal opinion as not even Lionel Hutz would allow his clients to turn down such a settlement.

Ultimately no matter how strong you believe your hand is, a trial (or tribunal) is a gamble that can go either way, if the prosecution is offering a sweet plea deal (such as an immaterial fine) you move heaven and earth to convince your client to take it.

City don’t employ stupid lawyers, so the fact the tribunal is moving forward is a very strong indication that no deals have been offered.
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There were reports that City were offered a token slap on the wrist by UEFA before the two year Champions League ban was imposed and turned it down so either these reports were untrue or it’s quite possible there was a similar scenario this time round
 
Iassel said:
Absolutely 0% chance in my personal opinion as not even Lionel Hutz would allow his clients to turn down such a settlement.

Ultimately no matter how strong you believe your hand is, a trial (or tribunal) is a gamble that can go either way, if the prosecution is offering a sweet plea deal (such as an immaterial fine) you move heaven and earth to convince your client to take it.

City don’t employ stupid lawyers, so the fact the tribunal is moving forward is a very strong indication that no deals have been offered.
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Exactly. The risk to City and all its partners is catastrophic with no recourse to CAS. No chance they would be at this stage if a deal had been offered.

And also the notion that it’s likely to be all sorted out sooner than we think with 95% off the table. All fantasy.

Every legal expert on this thread and on external sites know this case is going to take years.
 
Maly said:
It really is mate. For starters, your assumption that everyone attending & giving evidence are likely to all have English as their first language is completely incorrect

Khaldoon as Chairman may give evidence & I’m pretty certain he’ll be attending

Ferran Soriano as CEO may give evidence & again, pretty certain he’ll be attending too

Neither speak English as their first language, so how can it possibly be relevant that everyone attending & giving evidence will have English as their first language, when that’s not even true?
Maybe an Etihad rep, or Eiselt rep, or Mancini will give evidence. Will they all have English as a first language? Nope

No idea what your point about English & Swiss law is, unless you’re alluding to the fact that CAS is based in Switzerland & if it were based in the UK, we wouldn’t have won?

However, guessing you have no idea that the arbitrators & clerk for the CAS case were from Portugal, France, Switzerland & Holland? Or that UEFA used barristers from UK AND Switzerland? Or that English, French & Spanish are the 3 languages used at any CAS case?

CAS isn’t a kangaroo court mate, so what difference do you envisage this panel of 3 of English speakers, with at least one of the panel being a UK trained lawyer, will make?
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Only in Blighty can justice be truly applied!
 
Bloominmarvellous said:
Hmrc are already looking into players tax avoidance schemes from my understanding. Saw a legal bulletin and allegedly over 300 players are being investigated and one premier league club for paying agent fees through satellite clubs.
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Hmmm, 300 players you say! isnt that the size of our current squad according to the media and other wankers?

.......and just in case we didnt get your gist you use the phrase "satellite clubs".
 
FantasyIreland said:
No shit sherlock......of course that's what they fucking went with...... because FFP was invented,by those who had most to lose,for no other reason than to target us.
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The initial purpose of FFP was said to stop clubs building up debt that they couldn’t service . Somewhere along the lines the concept turned around to potentially do the exact reverse.

Indeed RA choose a way to inject capital into Chelsea but the debt to him grew all within FFP allowances but as we saw as soon as some thing happens to the owner that debt is the issue irrespective of how soft the loans are

Had the rule simply been something along the lines that debt to owners exceeding say 10% of averaged turnover had to be turned into equity then that would have made far more sense than allowing debt to grow and restricting wealthy individuals to do what they want with their own money.


Yes I was involved with a non league club , indeed there are far non league semi pro clubs than there are clubs in the PL and EFL. Those clubs are riddled with debt.

Take a moment to look at the accounts posted on companies house of the likes of Notts County or Southend (well Southend are a real basket case and are some years in arrear of posting accounts ) debts .
Look at Bath Citys indebtedness to their parent company.Ok these clubs aren’t as big as City as Chelsea and aren’t likely to play in European competitions but they are far just as important to their supporters and UEFAs version of FFP has done nothing to protect these clubs and it should
 
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