PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

wolviedinho said:
I want to know how 3 people on a tribunal can ascertain guilt based on no evidence?

They would need to get to a point where no other reasonable explanation can be ascertained.

No evidence means no case. Looks like they have taken their ball home in a huff.
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When they looked at all the evidence it be down to those 3 people in there opinion if all the people at city are lying
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
In work and a dipper expert explaining to a rag why city are fucked. Were going to be got hard aparently. Might aswell end the season now. Were done for
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Was he a small, old, grey but balding, dull as fuck, miserable twat that has stabbed virtually everyone he has ever worked with, in the back, that nobody has ever had a good word for, that is completely and utterly blinkered and biased, if not corrupt to the core about his beloved Liverpool; but someone deemed impartial and fair by the PL?
-and was the other a snidey twat called Gill?
 
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waspish said:
When they looked at all the evidence it be down to those 3 people in there opinion if all the people at city are lying
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Stupid procedure. It’s impossible without evidence. How do we gauge if their opinion is fair and true?
 
Chi-town blues said:
**** with rag hat noticed my city scarf ..
rag- you are a cheat
me - i didn’t know your wife was married
rag- no it’s about 115 charges
me- i paid her 115 plus tips


walks off and give me finger from far away.
Bye ****
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Blues constantly under attack. Sickening tbf.
 
Chi-town blues said:
**** with rag hat noticed my city scarf ..
rag- you are a cheat
me - i didn’t know your wife was married
rag- no it’s about 115 charges
me- i paid her 115 plus tips


walks off and give me finger from far away.
Bye ****
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Love people who start a bit of banter and then immediately throw their toys out of the pram when someone gives it back.
 
M18CTID said:
My guess is that the PL never wanted to take it as far as this. Certainly ever since the CAS hearing as it appears that they don't have anything more in the way of evidence than UEFA had. An article in The Athletic (I know!) soon after we won at CAS made the point that the expectation was that the PL investigation would collapse off the back of that verdict. Yet it didn't and we have to ask ourselves why it didn't. Without knowing for sure, there's a huge whiff of the PL being railroaded into this by certain clubs and individuals.
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I hope that is the case, otherwise we would need to worry about a smoking gun.
 
M18CTID said:
My guess is that the PL never wanted to take it as far as this. Certainly ever since the CAS hearing as it appears that they don't have anything more in the way of evidence than UEFA had. An article in The Athletic (I know!) soon after we won at CAS made the point that the expectation was that the PL investigation would collapse off the back of that verdict. Yet it didn't and we have to ask ourselves why it didn't. Without knowing for sure, there's a huge whiff of the PL being railroaded into this by certain clubs and individuals.
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When this is all over and if what you're suggesting proves to be bona fide, then I hope the protagonists are exposed by one means or another.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I should add as well that there would be a good chance that the High Court may find that a "guilty" judgement at the IC might be found to have prejudiced any further consideration of the charges if based on grounds of reasonable doubt (just as some newspaper coverage of high profile events does) and conversely, if the IC reaches its decision on grounds of probability, City could argue that this also prejudiced further consideration because the IC had planted the seed that the evidence was not sufficiently convincing to establish guilt beyond all reasonable doubt!
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My next little nag is that it sounds as though the info will only be released if agreed by both sides, so if we’re found not guilty, the PL could stop the reasoning being published, perpetuating our “guilt” with rival fans forever.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
My next little nag is that it sounds as though the info will only be released if agreed by both sides, so if we’re found not guilty, the PL could stop the reasoning being published, perpetuating our “guilt” with rival fans forever.
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Doesn't matter what happens, what the verdict is or what is or isn't published... rival fans will still say we're guilty

Let's just be cleared of all this and nothing else matters
 
STOP PRESS.
Telegraph announce that:
1. All charges dropped
2. New replacement catch all charge:
City charged with pissing off the redshirts by being innocent.
”This behaviour is totally disrespectful by City towards the most important clubs in the league.” said Masters.
 
M18CTID said:
My guess is that the PL never wanted to take it as far as this. Certainly ever since the CAS hearing as it appears that they don't have anything more in the way of evidence than UEFA had. An article in The Athletic (I know!) soon after we won at CAS made the point that the expectation was that the PL investigation would collapse off the back of that verdict. Yet it didn't and we have to ask ourselves why it didn't. Without knowing for sure, there's a huge whiff of the PL being railroaded into this by certain clubs and individuals.
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I'd have to revisit the timeline but didn't Der Spiegel go digging and control F-ing through the emails again, a few opinion leaders and moral entrepreneurs got agitated in the British press, and influential stakeholders in the PL said "look, here is your evidence, go after the stuff that wasn't time barred, the evidence is right there, it's a slam dunk", and to appease those voices the PL agreed?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
My next little nag is that it sounds as though the info will only be released if agreed by both sides, so if we’re found not guilty, the PL could stop the reasoning being published, perpetuating our “guilt” with rival fans forever.
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I think the media will rant on about dark forces interfering to ensure that City's cheating went unpunished is already well rehearsed.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
My next little nag is that it sounds as though the info will only be released if agreed by both sides, so if we’re found not guilty, the PL could stop the reasoning being published, perpetuating our “guilt” with rival fans forever.
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in that case presumably both sides would make a final statement either together or joint. we just need that to be strong enough. something like "the panel found no evidence of wrong doing" would do for me.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
My next little nag is that it sounds as though the info will only be released if agreed by both sides, so if we’re found not guilty, the PL could stop the reasoning being published, perpetuating our “guilt” with rival fans forever.
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Rules say the reasons will be published unless both sides agree otherwise.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Me too, alongside the inevitable non-cooperation fine again.

Tribalism will use it as a stick to poke at us forever anyway.
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except we would be able to we were investigated and cleared. would your club have been cleared if investigated?

An investigation into liverpool might make public the hacking scandal or emails to merseyside revealing our travel route to clanfield
 
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