PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[r.soleofsalford]

It’s a good question and not easily answered without having all the facts at hand.

The whole thing seems preposterous and destined to fail but then plenty said they same when the premier was formed in 92.

The same clubs also seem hellbent on stopping city taking a large chunk out of the premier league pie. The charges against city also seem preposterous.

Can it really come all down to jealously and financial greed? Its seems so.

None of it makes any sense because we don’t actually know what the end game is for these clubs. The government is also a new addition to the scenario. What they do or cant do is sketchy at best.

It’s either a desperate attempt to reclaim control of the premier or an attempt to have another go at the super league.

Probably dosent answer the question -:)

So the government want to take over and run the premier league. Well they fuck up everything they touch why should this be any different.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

The guy voting against was German. A junior in his practice wrote a piece “proving” that City were guilty.
It is said that it is common practice at CAS for members of a panel not to vote against their own nominator if it would result in 3-0. Not sure just how true that is.

I think it’s a touch simpler than that. The nominee from UEFA is taken from a panel that is pre-approved by them and will generally vote to support their contention irrespective of how the others vote.

 

[give it to gordon]

I've come to realise over the last few weeks that Everton fans are fucking thick - directing their anger at city, but don't seem to realise their lovely neighbours are the problem, scheming with the other red shites and controlling the PL. They seem to forget that Liverpool objected to their new ground, and guess what, with the points deductions, there's a good chance that it will be the best ground in the championship - red dippers don't like competition.

Yea the Everton outrage at this is bizarre. I know is a different federation but rags were 47 million over ffp and only got a 300k fine !. I would want to know why the pl punishment is alot more stronger than UEFA

 

[Dribble]

This is what he said…

‘I can't give any details on Man City beyond saying a date has been set, I can't tell you when that date is’

Anyway we shall see.

Correct, but Masters has never confirmed the generally accepted Autumn 2024 date to my knowledge which was first reported by the Fail IIRC.

This is why I said the major City announcement claimed by the Telegraph & supposedly due this week may or may not be more newspaper speculation, as Masters hasn't confirmed this either.

We'll find out soon enough.

 

[Fordyboy46]

But @Fordyboy46 liked the pretend Wrexham fans post, no chance he would be trolling as well is there

I don't think we'll be stripped of any titles, if found guilty

 

[BlueAnorak]

So the government want to take over and run the premier league. Well they fuck up everything the touch why should this be any different.

Incidently, all the PL clubs could be kicked out of UEFA and FIFA competitions if this comes to pass by the political interference in football membership clauses.
That will be another one to watch out for. I'm sure Spanish, German and Italian clubs will be keen to pull the trigger.

 

[pauls]

Erling, Alfie and his agent brought him to City they did an analysis based on specific criteria that would help him further his career, the outcome of that was that City were / are the best next step for him Although I didn't see the analysis I would be staggered if Omar Berrada was mentioned Omar's role would have been the commercial side of the deal for which he would have been part of the commercial team including CEO and CFO approved by the Chairman Winter is talking shite

Yeah, can't stick Winter after his press conference altercation with Mancini years ago.Pretty sure he was calling Barradi out as part of the cheating Empire a few days ago.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

It's probably false. This would mean this guy gets to see both other votes before casting his own on every single decision. I can't see that being possible.

As UEFA‘s nominated member of the Court he will always look to support their position wherever possible. Irrespective of what the others do,

 

[Blue Til Death]

Put up or shut up I say, fed up to the back teeth of all the fuckin innuendo and the whole of the red lickspittle media proclaiming our guilt from the rooftops..
it’s a disgrace how these cunts get away with slagging the best run club in the world, without a single offence either revealed or proven..!

It’s not taking this long because there are 115 alleged, yes, alleged offences, it’s taking this long because they can’t lay a glove on City no matter how hard they try …

City will be proven innocent of every charge but that won’t matter as they will just say we got away with it again … FUCK EM .. !

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Correct, but Masters has never confirmed the generally accepted Autumn 2024 date to my knowledge which was first reported by the Fail IIRC.

This is why I said the major City announcement claimed by the Telegraph & supposedly due this week may or may not be more newspaper speculation, as Masters hasn't confirmed this either.

We'll find out soon enough.

Has Masters confirmed whether he's confirmed anything?

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Do we know what information will be made public when a decision is made?

If they don’t have to publish their findings publicly, the burden of proof can be at whatever level they deem enough to find us guilty.

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

Thanks for the reply. I’m optimistic that it’ll all blow over, but there’s always that little nag in the back of your mind that asks What if.

I guess it’s part of the cynical society we now live in where all news is questioned and facts only believed if they fit the agenda people want to believe.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I think the "We can keep our own house in order" horse has bolted. IREF was in the King's Speech & is set to be enacted in this Parliament. Let's hope that's sooner rather than later.

The scope isn't defined yet. The PL will still be trying to ringfence themselves.

 

[Gordyola]

Yea the Everton outrage at this is bizarre. I know is a different federation but rags were 47 million over ffp and only got a 300k fine !. I would want to know why the pl punishment is alot more stronger than UEFA

Because unlike the PL UEFA have a punishment strategy in place. Masters told the commission what the Everton punishment should be, which he based on the EFL one IIRC is 6 points plus 2 for ever £20M over. The IC have wide ranging powers to decide punishment it was just a coincidence that they arrived at the same figure as Masters

 

[wolviedinho]

I want to know how 3 people on a tribunal can ascertain guilt based on no evidence?

They would need to get to a point where no other reasonable explanation can be ascertained.

No evidence means no case. Looks like they have taken their ball home in a huff.

 

[KS55]

I don't know what details have to be given, but the whole business is opaque to say the least. Presumably City will have to be provided with the grounds on which the judgement is made and if City find that the commission considers the evidence furnishes conclusive proof (beyond all reasonable doubt) or sufficient to convince that City are probably guilty then City would immediately appeal and the court would hear the appeal and accept it because the commission and the three officials composing it were not established by a competent authority and were not competent or authorised to deal with such matters. As Ric says, "a case the PL can't win"?

Not “beyond all reasonable doubt” but on the balance of probabilities.

 

[Gordyola]

Has Masters confirmed whether he's confirmed anything?

One thing he hasnt had to confirm because we all know it RMIAFC

 

[spinney]

Incidently, all the PL clubs could be kicked out of UEFA and FIFA competitions if this comes to pass by the political interference in football membership clauses.
That will be another one to watch out for. I'm sure Spanish, German and Italian clubs will be keen to pull the trigger.

Correct almost nobody has spotted this , I know it's FIFA rule to stop banana Republics scamming their FAs pretty sad if our our country is now classed in the same bracket

 

[CC1]

if the PL panel find us guilty & we’re eventually relegated, I hope all our rivals realise that any trophy they win will have * against it because the best team in the world were not competing :) :)

 

[kurious oranj]

He's mentioned this morning that he 'left his newspaper job' in November and he's now basically promoting his work on his substack site.

Similar to how Joey Barton sought to gain interest and followers just before launching a new podcast, Harris is just after people to sign up so throwing as much shite out there about us as he can. The more of a 'revelation' he can make any of it seem, the more money he'll get.

Can't stand C*ntona, but the nonsense he spoke about seagulls following trawlers was never truer. And we are a big fucking trawler with a load of desperate, starving gulls following, desperate for any scrap they can find before the ship sails off gleaming into the sunset.

He copied that quote from Shia Labeouf. Tru.fact.