PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mancity2012_eamo]

Unless they can somehow shake somebody down for another 160 million like they did with Courtinho, I just don't see Liverpool challenging the top again. Top 4, sure, making another push for the title, I don't see the talent or the intent to spend to get it. Though moving TAA from being a shite RB and being a decent midfielder was very smart of Klopp.
Getting Mac Allister for 35 million was a bargain IMO. But its just not enough.

Kloppy-copy-cat.
Saw what Pep was doing with the 4-4-2 going to a 3-5-1

 

[BerkshireBlue]

These allegations cover a period BEFORE the PL adopted “Associated“ as a definition. Up to then we worked under IAS24 and UEFA, with some reluctance, accepted that none of our sponsorships were from related parties.

and even it it were it was deemed fair value anyway

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Gave up watching after 90 secs. Language used, "will city get away with" and "severe allegations" did not suggest an impartial assessment

it's actually a decent viewing, I'd recommend watching it all

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I don't think we need to worry about "a kangaroo court". The commission has to be independent and I have every reason to believe that the professional integrity of its members will far outweigh any other consideration. If it does not and the commission delivers a perverse judgement City will then have a right of appeal. This would also be the case in the event of a disproportionate punishment. But City's plea is not one for leniency but that the charges are baseless and there is no case to answer.

We have the right of appeal to who?
Back to the PL panel?

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

Kloppy-copy-cat.
Saw what Pep was doing with the 4-4-2 going to a 3-5-1

Wow - 3-5-1 - Pep really has worked magic deciding to play 10 v 11.
I guess it gives the other clubs a chance though ;)

 

[Bez]

You can look at this sequence of events from a few perspectives and no one on this site can provide a definitive answer but I think it’s fair to assume that City have quite clearly been targeted and no other PL club has been scrutinised or investigated to the degree we have - ultimately that will become an issue for the prosecution I.e. They can’t hold us to higher standards than other clubs. They should be mindful that anything they find us guilty of - it is likely other clubs will have done similar. This whole case is clearly motivated as a vengeful act by some or all of the hateful eight and I think we can assume that they don’t have definite evidence of wrongdoing - partly because Gill and Parry would have certainly leaked such info to their lackeys in the media by now and the PL would not have adopted the spaghetti at the wall approach of 100+ charges, if they knew specifics. I did think that part of this was motivated by the clubs in red trying to resist an independent regulator but, if that were the case it’s backfired because they are presently making a definitive case for a regulator with their obvious incompetence. Ultimately no one knows how this will play out but this case looks big on bravado, low on content and would be doomed to failure in the legal system, the arrogance of Levy, Gill et al might have convinced a few that they can push this over the line in their internal PL process but the wider legal process still needs to be respected and any KC or senior legal figure isn’t going to want to be associated with this case which increasingly looks and smells what it is…. A vengeful cartel taking out its frustration on a rival who has seized their ball and won’t give it back. As a few posters have said… if City really had filed 9 years of dodgy, manipulated and inaccurate accounts… the HMRC would have raided the club by now and they seem wholly unbothered by this politically motivated nonsense.

Great Post. Well said.

 

[Metal Biker]

We have the right of appeal to who?
Back to the PL panel?

This is what I was on about before.

Is it being argued by some that 'They' could find us guilty despite us presenting our evidence, punish us 'accordingly' and we could do nothing about it? So what would stop them just finding City guilty and have done with us? Exactly how impartial is this independent investigation going to be?

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

We have the right of appeal to who?
Back to the PL panel?

The independent commission is not a court of law but a body which enforces the rules made by a governing body of an organisation. Courts of law are content to allow these commissions to handle enquiries into breaches of rules and deal with them: courts of law would not be interested in hearing a case about the length of grass on a football field. If however such a commission were to try and enforce a rule which is clearly at odds with the law of the land, or if it were to deliver a perverse judgement and if a club were to be punished disproportionately then appeal would be to another commission BUT the courts could consider whether it would allow an appeal. The process may seem cumbersome and indeed it can be but the aim is to ensure that the process is fair/impartial and that only those who break the rules/law are punished and that punishment is fair.

My personal opinion is that City are more than capable of looking after themselves and that the club has done nothing which is against the rules. The commission will find in our favour and that will be that. Let's not forget that many bluemooners were afraid that CAS would "stitch us up" and they were quite wrong. Who was the journalist who claimed that UEFA were a much respected body and that CAS would never find against a governing body of a sport? Yet it did!

 

[dickie davies]

This is what I was on about before.

Is it being argued by some that 'They' could find us guilty despite us presenting our evidence, punish us 'accordingly' and we could do nothing about it? So what would stop them just finding City guilty and have done with us? Exactly how impartial is this independent investigation going to be?

The club can appeal if it believed it wasn't a fair and unbiased process

 

[halfcenturyup]

We have the right of appeal to who?
Back to the PL panel?

Commission - Appeal Panel - Independent Tribunal.

IIRC.