PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

KS55 said:
The action may just be a letter in anticipation of being cleared, the import of which will be “If you so much as hint that our exoneration is not kosher, we will be down on you like a ton of bricks.”
“It‘s a bad day for football“ is strictly verboten.
Alternatively, this may be a complete load of bollocks and the kangaroo court starts soon.
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I'm sure Klopp said exactly that when we were cleared by CAS. "It's not a good day for football" or some such shit.
 
Ducado said:
No idea to be honest but RAWK is their biggest independent forum, they have a large fan base and the majority of them are not from Merseyside but from anonymous non descript places they seem to want to be part of some imaginary scouse mythos. they want to identify with the culture

We all know that the internet attracts sundry weirdos and fruitcakes and LFC seems to have attracted them in some number their whole identity is tied up in the aforementioned scouse mythos, even when things are going well they still need an enemy, this time it's us, there will be others that's how cults work

I know plenty of Liverpool fans (including family) who are decent normal people (same for United fans) and banter is just part of football culture but when your life starts get effected by the game to the extent that you want a perceived rivals stadium blowing up or death and injury to them, I would say that it's time to give up the game your mental stability and happiness is worth far more than what is just a passionate pastime for the majority

Like I said before they knew exactly what they were doing when they set this hare running and it's going to take a herculean effort to calm it all down again
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Spot on!

Last year our daughter married a great lad born and bred in Liverpool. He and his family are all lifelong Liverpool season ticket holders. They are embarrassed by much of the sentiment on RAWK and some of the YouTube idiots. I have pointed out when discussing the charges against City the danger of "trial by media" and proportioning guilt with reference to Hillsborough which did make them think again.
 
Oldham Exile said:
Yeah - all that was said on here was:

"Of all fanbases, they should know about campaigns to discredit and how innocent folks can be portrayed to be guilty and judged by millions who don't bother to discover the facts."

It speaks volumes about their victim culture that one of them feels the need to turn that around and tell the cult of RAWK that Bluemoon is disrespecting Hillsborough - the more you read of RAWK - the more you see that everything is twisted to make them victims.

Pathetic shallow fuckers
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I had exactly the same issue a few years ago (after the CAS hearing) when I queried the lack of investigative journos like David Conn looking into why a British club had been falsely accused and then cleared of charges by a European governing body without, it appeared, a scrap of evidence. Mentioned David Conn's excellent work into the treatment of the Hillsborough familes by the authorities...

You can guess the rest,.
 
Worryingly rational comment from Simon Stone:

Martin, Birmingham:
Do you think the continuing secrecy around the investigations into Man City's PSR compliance is harmful to the integrity of the Premier League and especially so if they win a fourth consecutive title or a 'double double'.

Simon stone
When you say ‘secrecy’, what is it you want to know? There is a case, which we think will be held in the autumn and which will be behind closed doors. As it is a private case, within a private organisation, there is nothing unusual in that. Then the case will be assessed, then there will be a verdict followed, at some point, by the written reasons, which will be lengthy and detailed and explain what has happened.

Do you want this all to be out in the open, like a legal trial? I admit, it would be fascinating. But it isn’t going to happen. I also accept the time it takes – and the fact Manchester City could win a second title since the charges were brought in a matter of weeks – is frustrating. But I am not sure what the alternative is. It is a complex legal case.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
No youre wrong, to a point. They are looking to fill a void in there lives that comes down to success.
If it was just about filling a PL void why dont more support fulham or palace? Why all united, liverpool and increasingly us?

No they are sad needy pricks who need to fill some empty success space in their lives
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Mate, I literally spoke to my former colleague who told me about this local club thing. I knew he was a Rag & originally came from Scarborough, but it never crossed my mind why he became a ManUre supporter.

As for being needy for success. This fella was professionally VERY successful. As for why support Palace or Fulham, you missed the bit where I mentioned the big CL nights which neither club are involved with.

ManUre were the big boss at the time, so he literally chose to support them & followed up his support by studying at UMIST & settling in Manchester after graduating.

He worked for our company whilst doing his PHD in Computer Science, & eventually left for a senior position working for Cunard on wages we couldn't hope to compete with.

The only non-successful part of his life was supporting Scarborough, which he resolved by becoming a Rag season ticket holder.
 
Dribble said:
Mate, I literally spoke to my former colleague who told me about this local club thing. I knew he was a Rag & originally came from Scarborough, but it never crossed my mind why he became a ManUre supporter.

As for being needy for success. This fella was professionally VERY successful. As for why support Palace or Fulham, you missed the bit where I mentioned the big CL nights which neither club are involved with.

ManUre were the big boss at the time, so he literally chose to support them & followed up his support by studying at UMIST & settling in Manchester after graduating.

He worked for our company whilst doing his PHD in Computer Science, & eventually left for a senior position working for Cunard on wages we couldn't hope to compete with.

The only non-successful part of his life was supporting Scarborough, which he resolved by becoming a Rag season ticket holder.
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Yeah so it still filled a void that the only thing not successful was his football team so he ‘chose’ united , still the same
 
Bozzie said:
By bizarre coincidence I knew a Tory local councillor called Kershaw. Slightly strange bloke, memory might be playing tricks but if I remember correctly he had very blonde hair, slightly John Inman (ish) in demeanour.
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I doubt if any Tory local councillor has ever said “I’m free”. Their charges tend to be on the high side
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Worryingly rational comment from Simon Stone:

Martin, Birmingham:
Do you think the continuing secrecy around the investigations into Man City's PSR compliance is harmful to the integrity of the Premier League and especially so if they win a fourth consecutive title or a 'double double'.

Simon stone
When you say ‘secrecy’, what is it you want to know? There is a case, which we think will be held in the autumn and which will be behind closed doors. As it is a private case, within a private organisation, there is nothing unusual in that. Then the case will be assessed, then there will be a verdict followed, at some point, by the written reasons, which will be lengthy and detailed and explain what has happened.

Do you want this all to be out in the open, like a legal trial? I admit, it would be fascinating. But it isn’t going to happen. I also accept the time it takes – and the fact Manchester City could win a second title since the charges were brought in a matter of weeks – is frustrating. But I am not sure what the alternative is. It is a complex legal case.
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I see the whole thing as the PL shooting itself in the foot
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Worryingly rational comment from Simon Stone:

Martin, Birmingham:
Do you think the continuing secrecy around the investigations into Man City's PSR compliance is harmful to the integrity of the Premier League and especially so if they win a fourth consecutive title or a 'double double'.

Simon stone
When you say ‘secrecy’, what is it you want to know? There is a case, which we think will be held in the autumn and which will be behind closed doors. As it is a private case, within a private organisation, there is nothing unusual in that. Then the case will be assessed, then there will be a verdict followed, at some point, by the written reasons, which will be lengthy and detailed and explain what has happened.

Do you want this all to be out in the open, like a legal trial? I admit, it would be fascinating. But it isn’t going to happen. I also accept the time it takes – and the fact Manchester City could win a second title since the charges were brought in a matter of weeks – is frustrating. But I am not sure what the alternative is. It is a complex legal case.
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Simon Stone is mostly correct. But the part about our breaches being a legal case? It's not.
 
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