foggy1974
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ExactlyBecause he would've been taken to the cleaners.
ExactlyBecause he would've been taken to the cleaners.
And then Joe Lewis got busted some time after our breaches were made public. Now his charge sheet if proven is serious stuff. Whats goes around comes around. Maybe one or two more skeletons will be coming out of cupboards when we are cleared or even sooner. Get the Guinness out;-)wasn't it spurs allegedly behind pushing the PL to finally pull the trigger?
Maybe there is a legal definition for ‘acting in good faith’ . I find it difficult to understand how given the paucity of evidence an independent commission could reach a verdict that we had.It's my pleasure.
That's an interesting point about the position taken by the PL's independent commission, and got me thinking. The PL's PSR are more generic than the FFP ones, which are quite specific.
FFP goes into detail about owner investment, about allowable expenditure and other things. The PL Handbook only talks about submitting accounts, and the process for doing that, acting in good faith, and generic requirements like that. The only area they go into specific detail on is associated party transactions.
So the commission won't have any empirical yardstick to judge our charges against. They could, for example, say that the Etisalat sponsorship (where ADUG seemingly paid upfront before being reimbursed) was not done in good faith. They could take the same view of the Mancini contract, or the players' image rights payments. That's potentially a very different test to the PSR or FFP financial calculations, or CAS declaring that there was no evidence of disguised owner investment within the Etihad contract.
CAS essentially asked:
They were happy that there was an acceptable answer for all those questions.
- Did Etihad pay what was in the contract?
- Was any of that sponsorship funded by Sheikh Mansour?
- If not, how was the additional money due funded?
- Did Etihad pay a fair market price?
- Did City provide adequate exposure for Etihad as part of that contract?
Asking "Did City act in good faith?" is more subjective. Having said that, I'm sure we'll be bringing the CAS output as part of our evidence, and I think they'd be foolish to ignore it.
Stefan went far more in depth on this Arsenal podcast. Really interesting discussion...
The problem with speculation about potential punishment is that there is nothing in the PL Handbook about the scale or severity of sanctions. UEFA published a clear tariff of penalties for failing FFP, dependent on the seriousness of the breach and whether it was a first or repeat offenc, so we can safely talk about the scale of any punishment in that situation. Everton may try to use that as part of their appeal.Clearly I wasn't suggesting relegation for non-cooperation. You can't really believe that is what I said, meant or that people interpreted.
Similar to what I posted yesterday. Masters and the PL totally out of their depth here .The consequences are mind blowing and Masters effectively a dead man walking ( career not literally ha ;-) )
Where does the PL go from here ? Pretty much unfit for purpose……… step in the regulator !
Ye but don’t forget he’s not well. BlessHe simply has to be unwell Harris to have this fixation on us. Now even going to the extremes of "I want disgruntled ex city employees to get in touch with stories of malpractices and cover ups'....24 hours a fuckin day we are in his head.
We all know he's never off this forum too, So Harris I just want to call you a **** while you're reading this.
It’s what comes from not being stopped by others and being so up your own arse. People who think they are something just run over others until they are stopped. Sadly, Jordan’s ears were too closed to even hear @projectriver facts stopping him in his tracks, and he just carried on with his own agenda.After watching the video yesterday of stefan with the gobshite I've come to the conclusion that Jordan is on the spectrum. His behaviour and inability to stop himself from cutting in when people are speaking is rude and probably out of his control.
D=10.724 just rolls off the tongue.Not sure if you can go into 3 figures! Maybe D Squared could make something for Pep to wear with 115 on it.
Disagree as I’ve said many times this smoking gun really doesn’t exist. If city had anything on the other clubs it would be out.I think if City are found guilty which I do not think they will then they will bring the Premier league to an end. City will have their own accusations about the red clubs.