PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Lord Blue]

always worth a bump

Actually there might be something in that.

Should a team that is in the premier league for just 1 year in the last 10 have the same voting rights as an ever present like Everton? Maybe, maybe not.

Should Everton get relegated should they lose all voting rights immediately?

Maybe it should be proportional. Maybe you get 1 vote for each of the rolling last 10 years you were in the premier league. So City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, Palace would all currently get 10 votes each whereas Burnley would get 8 votes and Forest would get 2 votes.

Not sold on that idea, but it's still the case that no one team gets more than 1/20 of the total vote.

 

[Kinkybyname]

Talk Shite have done a right job on Stefan's interview.

They are literally no better than Der Spiegel and that Hacker!

This whole case would have been thrown out ages ago if a criminal prosecution.

It absolutely stinks how main stream media and the public have been convinced we are guilty!

TS have but not a big showing elsewhere, certainly not in print media

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Think we're about to be discussed - Football Focus.
Nedum.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Actually there might be something in that.

Should a team that is in the premier league for just 1 year in the last 10 have the same voting rights as an ever present like Everton? Maybe, maybe not.

Should Everton get relegated should they lose all voting rights immediately?

Maybe it should be proportional. Maybe you get 1 vote for each of the rolling last 10 years you were in the premier league. So City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, Palace would all currently get 10 votes each whereas Burnley would get 8 votes and Forest would get 2 votes.

Not sold on that idea, but it's still the case that no one team gets more than 1/20 of the total vote.

For such a vote to pass it would need to advantage (and be supported by) two thirds of the member clubs which I suspect is a virtual mathematical impossibility. There will always be about 8-10 clubs who would be disadvantaged by weighting the votes in that way.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Think we're about to be discussed - Football Focus.
Nedum.

Cancel that - just a sentence about the charges still hanging.

 

[Lord Blue]

While the press debate whether a massive points deduction or expulsion from the PL is a fitting punishment for City's hideous crimes and Lord Chief Justice Jordan insists there is a case to answer a succession of mere football finance experts - Maguire, Ioannidis, Plumley and our own Stefan Borson, to name but four - have pointed out that proving these charges will be very difficult indeed since they are supposed to have taken place continuously over a period of ten years and involve companies with a global reputation for integrity and individuals well known on the world stage and respected in diplomatic circles. If we look at the commission which passed judgement on Everton, for violating PL spending limits we find that it was made up of a KC and the former finance director of a PL club. It was NOT a case of a senior judge presiding over a properly constituted court of law applying laws enacted by a sovereign body. The body which judges City's case will be similar to the Everton body and to find that City have done anything like what the PL claims is, as Stefan put it, "a big call". I think that the scale and gravity of the charges must be dawning on the PL and that any consideration of such charges is way beyond its competence.

The premier league might be wise to protect themselves (from having to deal with messes like this) going forward by putting time restrictions in place.
Yes some teams might get away with some things but mitigate that by monitoring more carefully and acting quicker.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

All I keep hearing and reading, especially on Talkshite &Sly, is what potential penalties we will incur should we be found guilty. What nobody talks about is what are the consequences if, as I hope and expect, we are found not guilty. Someone should carry the can ( probably Masters) for bringing these charges against us. The club will no doubt refrain for claiming any kind of compensation for defamation of them and senior members of staff, i just wish they would come out of this swinging a few punches.

The consequences are Manchester City Football Club continues to grow as one of the biggest sports brands in the world, hoovering up trophies, that we continue to develop the stadium and surrounding area, and that Manchester, and East Manchester in particular, continues to be one of the fastest growing and most desirable parts of Europe to live and work in. We will release a statement welcoming the decision, continue to have a seat at the PL table, no matter who doesn't want us there, and never fucking mention it ever again and move on with this exciting part of our history. And a couple of jealous scousers say mean things about us on socials. Can't wait.

 

[mancboy]

Talk Shite have done a right job on Stefan's interview.

They are literally no better than Der Spiegel and that Hacker!

This whole case would have been thrown out ages ago if a criminal prosecution.

It absolutely stinks how main stream media and the public have been convinced we are guilty!

No, no, no they have not convinced people we are guilty, they have convinced idiots we are guilty, they have convinced the same idiots who believed us and the dippers shared the last 6 titles, they have convinced the same idiots that believed that the rags had a genuine shot at the champions league, it is not hard to convince these morons of anything as they want to believe it, they want to believe that its not mismanagement by their clubs and that they arent quite good enough, they want to believe it in the same way that they want to believe that if it wasnt for that knee injury theyd have made it and played in the premier league and that they are the funniest person in the office and everyone is laughing with them not at them, they havent convinced anyone with half a brain of anything, its just unfortunate that as with most things the vocal idiot minority make the loudest noise.

 

[Blueroses]

That was sorted here, does he think double jeopardy will happen?? https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/10864437/man-city-fined-300k-and-banned-from-signing-academy-players-for-two-years-by-premier-league#:~:text=Manchester City have been banned,players registered with other clubs.

Thanks for sharing. It’s just rehash. Mood from media is they know where this will end up so they are front loading on negativity. When will the chance appear when can potentially cleared.

 

[Lord Blue]

For such a vote to pass it would need to advantage (and be supported by) two thirds of the member clubs which I suspect is a virtual mathematical impossibility. There will always be about 8-10 clubs who would be disadvantaged by weighting the votes in that way.

I'm not so sure they would be disadvantaged. Everton for instance might vote for it, an ever present whom should they get relegated would likely come straight back up. They're voting share would drop from 10 votes to 9 for around 10 years. We might vote for it as we'd still have 10 votes and if we got relegated we'd still have voting power.

Actually, losing voting power instead of points or a fine, is a kind of punishment that hasn't been suggested.

But it wouldn't happen anyway so its moot.