PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

I’ve only skim read the Delaney article but two points jumped out. He states City are owned by a dictatorship - untrue and potentially libellous
He also says that a “superbly run club like Real Sociodad….) Doesn’t seem to cross his mind how superbly run City is.
It really boils down to bitter jealousy on the part of our rivals. If they would only acknowledge the fact (unpalatable though it may be for them to do so) that a huge part of City’s success is we have a football genius as manager. For all the jibes about money, if Pep had managed u**ted, the scousers or Arse over the same period, whilst they might not have had quite the same spectacular success we’ve had, they would certainly have been there or thereabouts every year, especially with u**ted with the equivalent money they had to spend/have spent.
It’s not just about the fucking money.
It’s hard not to let all this constant shithousery get one down but balls to the lot of them and it’s a great comfort to contrast the experience of being a City fan as things are with how it would have felt if HH Sheik Mansour and Pep had bought/managed the red shirts. Stuff of nightmares

Would they have been using hacked emails to go back through accounts in the year 2009 if Guardiola had never rocked up at City and we were enjoying the initial odd title here and there and struggling to get out of the group stages of the champions league like we were during the early stages of the take over. I very much doubt they’d give two shits about where Mancini’s wages and who were paying the sponsorships

Now City have crushed them all into the ground and they’ve loaded their clubs with debt to keep up they want City gone and Guardiola’s legacy in English football tarnished because they haven’t got a clue how to run a successful football club. It’s that bad they are now poaching our staff at the swamp to replicate what City do. It’s getting tiresome the attacks and the constant rule changes to try and fuck City over, it’s not stopped City but it’s killing other clubs growing in the process.

 

[Gordyola]

Well that's where I feel City should chase these libellous bastards in the media into courts for damages, hopefully bankrupt most of them. That would feel like winning the Treble again

Not worth it, too much time for the executives who can be better employed Wouldnt prove anything and the media are experts in how far they can go

 

[citizen_maine]

Would they have been using hacked emails to go back through accounts in the year 2009 if Guardiola had never rocked up at City and we were enjoying the initial odd title here and there and struggling to get out of the group stages of the champions league like we were during the early stages of the take over. I very much doubt they’d give two shits about where Mancini’s wages and who were paying the sponsorships

Now City have crushed them all into the ground and they’ve loaded their clubs with debt to keep up they want City gone and Guardiola’s legacy in English football tarnished because they haven’t got a clue how to run a successful football club. It’s that bad they are now poaching our staff at the swamp to replicate what City do. It’s getting tiresome the attacks and the constant rule changes to try and fuck City over, it’s not stopped City but it’s killing other clubs growing in the process.

Pretty sure the rags owners had loaded the club with debt way before they needed to try and keep up with us

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Would they have been using hacked emails to go back through accounts in the year 2009 if Guardiola had never rocked up at City and we were enjoying the initial odd title here and there and struggling to get out of the group stages of the champions league like we were during the early stages of the take over. I very much doubt they’d give two shits about where Mancini’s wages and who were paying the sponsorships

Now City have crushed them all into the ground and they’ve loaded their clubs with debt to keep up they want City gone and Guardiola’s legacy in English football tarnished because they haven’t got a clue how to run a successful football club. It’s that bad they are now poaching our staff at the swamp to replicate what City do. It’s getting tiresome the attacks and the constant rule changes to try and fuck City over, it’s not stopped City but it’s killing other clubs growing in the process.

Same sentiment here. Without this gargantuan success under pep none of this would be happening.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Would they have been using hacked emails to go back through accounts in the year 2009 if Guardiola had never rocked up at City and we were enjoying the initial odd title here and there and struggling to get out of the group stages of the champions league like we were during the early stages of the take over. I very much doubt they’d give two shits about where Mancini’s wages and who were paying the sponsorships

Now City have crushed them all into the ground and they’ve loaded their clubs with debt to keep up they want City gone and Guardiola’s legacy in English football tarnished because they haven’t got a clue how to run a successful football club. It’s that bad they are now poaching our staff at the swamp to replicate what City do. It’s getting tiresome the attacks and the constant rule changes to try and fuck City over, it’s not stopped City but it’s killing other clubs growing in the process.

If we’d have spunked millions and ended up in the championship they would have waved us off laughing and none of these “rules” would’ve seen the light of day.

Cunts.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Pretty sure the rags owners had loaded the club with debt way before they needed to try and keep up with us

That debt has got bigger since they’ve had to deal with the City juggernaut. They probably leveraged that buy out thinking they’d always be top dogs, being in a constant transition since 2013 has made the hole they are in even bigger.

 

[spiny]

Not long after our takeover, questions were being asked on the sustainability of the ADUG strategy, plans and investments. The Swiss Ramble did an analysis and concluded they were feasible, albeit conditional. Success on the field has justified the investment, removed any doubts and taken City finances to the top, beyond other English clubs and still growing.

Typically it was dismissed in the comments particularly by an Arsenal fan. Knowing about business in the Middle East, I replied saying that they had no comprehension of the scale of the proposed investment and that it was a 20 year plan in scope way beyond the proposed limited developments around the London Olympic Stadium. This was even before the Etihad Campus contaminated land site development.

It would be very interesting to revisit The Swiss Ramble archives, if anyone has access? For those not familiar, he is a respected, credible and often quoted source on football club finances in a standard comparable format, predating FFP.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Not long after our takeover, questions were being asked on the sustainability of the ADUG strategy, plans and investments. The Swiss Ramble did an analysis and concluded they were feasible, albeit conditional. Success on the field has justified the investment, removed any doubts and taken City finances to the top, beyond other English clubs and still growing.

Typically it was dismissed in the comments particularly by an Arsenal fan. Knowing about business in the Middle East, I replied saying that they had no comprehension of the scale of the proposed investment and that it was a 20 year plan in scope way beyond the proposed limited developments around the London Olympic Stadium. This was even before the Etihad Campus contaminated land site development.

It would be very interesting to revisit The Swiss Ramble archives, if anyone has access? For those not familiar, he is a respected, credible and often quoted source on football club finances in a standard comparable format, predating FFP.

I like Swiss Ramble, I even subscribed to his reports he issues.

The world doesnt run on facts though, it runs on make believe. And thats why a knob like mark goldbridge can make more money telling people what they want to hear.

 

[cheekybids]

Is that what he's saying?

Tbf to him that tweet reads like he's saying what Martin Samual has been saying for 10 years... the champs league money, along with ffp, has skewed the league so that teams in it will almost always be in it.

But that’s not happened, the teams are very different even if you just look at England as Liverpool & Chelsea didn’t qualify & the Rags didn’t get past the groups. Newcastle were a surprise qualifier but went out in groups.

If anything there’s been a bit of a shake up which is why the cunts want to change it back.

 

[ROCKET80]

Is that what he's saying?

Tbf to him that tweet reads like he's saying what Martin Samual has been saying for 10 years... the champs league money, along with ffp, has skewed the league so that teams in it will almost always be in it.

From what I've read they both come at it from different angles.

Samuels appears to be old school, not fussed about the format but that the Champions League should just be for champions, and by including teams who finished in the top4 of the biggest leagues it caused further disparity between the richer clubs of the biggest nations.

To me, Delaney is just bemoaning that the likes of City are now competing for honours. We would not be getting articles like this from him (and nor did we) if United, Liverpool, and Arsenal were constantly in the latter stages.

His argument is that there are only certain teams able to win it now, when that was always the case (other than a brief period when English clubs were banned and it saw Steaua, Porto, PSV and Red Star win their first European Cups).

Since the anomaly that was Porto v Monaco there have been 19 CL Finals. 7 clubs ( Real, Barcelona, Bayern, Milan, Inter, Liverpool, and United) share 16 of those titles. Those clubs have been runners-up on 9 occasions.

Since Nottm. Forest beat Malmo in 1979 there has only been one final where both European Cup/Champions League finalists were making their first appearance at that stage guaranteeing a new winner of the competition. That was in 1991 when Red Star beat Marseille.