PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[manimanc]

It'd be piss funny if we announced tomorrow that we got new sponsors

 

[creditunionhero]

Page 38 of the CAS verdict.

The matter of the authenticity of the emails was resolved because Manchester City provided originals and the panel compared the originals to the leaks and found them to be parts of emails which had names, addresses dates, CC's removed. They specifically say they compared all leaked emails from der Speigel and the only discrepancy was email 4 which was actually 2 together, but that didn't change the meaning of them.

"MCFC explicitly acknowledged the emails produced on 18 May 2020 were authentic"

"Mr Widdowson and Mr Pearce acknowledged the veracity of the leaked emails in their testimony. Mr Widdowsdon explicitly did so. Mr Pearce did not, but by referring to his thought process in drafting certain sections of the emails the panel finds he implicitly acknowledged the veracity of the leaked emails."

So we admitted the emails were correct but they found us not guilty? Job done.

 

[cleavers]

I think part of the issue here is that City have refused to cooperate again

I don't think you need "again".

We refused to cooperate with UEFA for fear of being shafted, and as a result we were never cooperating with the PL, because we knew anything we gave them, would end up with UEFA anyway.

 

[jrb]

Don’t worry I will be there mate!!

Along with a few spares. ;-)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The tunnel club will be serving chips, egg and beans at £2.50 a pop if that happens.

Might go in there myself :)

Curly sandwiches and strippers for a quid hopefully. Kahldoon will need to chanel the inner swales.

 

[flb]

The tunnel club will be serving chips, egg and beans at £2.50 a pop if that happens.

Might go in there myself :)

Brink back the ankle deep in piss toilets from the old Kippax i say , that smell of ammonia pissed all over smelling salts.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

I'm back home now so can have a look at this shit in more detail but my understanding is that just because there isn't an explicit limitation, doesn't mean one can't be applied in law. The accepted limit in English law is six years so a court could potentially apply that in this case. That would possibly disqualify anything that happened prior to February 2017 therefore.

In the CAS case, I seem to remember that they looked at the whole of the latest financial year within that six year period, so that would include anything in and after the 2016/17 financial year.

We know who's pulling the PL's strings here. My suspicion about this case has always been that the PL want to escape with their honour satisfied without rocking the boat any more than necessary. That was the case with UEFA, who offered us a soft settlement which we refused.

So if this 'independent commission' were to say that all the events were time-barred, then the PL can say they tried and loads of mud sticks without any actual examination of the charges and evidence for and against. We would be forever tainted and that would probably suit our US-owned rivals even more than a six or seven figure fine.

With UEFA, we knew what the charges related to, courtesy of Der Spiegel, and it was easy to see how ridiculous they were. I said at the time that those emails were very selective and very much 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink'', casting aspersions without any real evidence. CAS comprehensively confirmed that view of course.

It's hard to say in this case as the charges seem quite extensive and appear to relate to matters not in the public domain. It could be we have done significant things wrong or it could be that they've picked up little things that are open to interpretation. It could be the difference between the equivalent of a major, deliberate attempt to defraud VAT and a simple misunderstanding about a VAT calculation on mileage claims. We'll find out in time I guess.

Not sure if it's already been pointed out but, unlike UEFA and CAS, there is no arbitration in the PL rules. So this could easily end up in court. We could yet see Pannick in the courts of London again.

The other thing that struck me was that this seems to be a replay of the events of 1904-1906, when the FA were determined to find something wrong at the nouveau riche, upstart club that had upset the Football League aristocracy like Aston Villa by nearly winning a League and FA Cup double in 1904, just ten years into its existence.

Billy Meredith spilled the beans on illegal payments to players and we got absolutely hammered, while other clubs doing exactly the same thing (i.e. pretty well all of them) were unaffected. I'm sure if the PL spent four years going through Liverpool's, united's Arsenal's and particularly Chelsea's books, they'd find something they didn't like. But we know they won't turn that stone over to see what crawls out.

I've never forgiven Villa for that. Cunts.

 

[bluegaz13]

If we are found guilty…..and I have the utmost confidence in our owners…..are the clubs who received some of this supposed over inflated sponsorship money as transfer fees going to pay the money back. They were happy to take it !

I am sure we have circumnavigated some of the regulations….but that’s why we pay for the best accountants whose job it is to save their customers from paying avoidable costs…….just like rest of the league.

I am worried about this because the hateful 8 have made no secret of the outcome they want to see……but have to believe that we can trust the process…..similar to CAS.

Is it a coincidence that there were lots of optimistic links with us and Bellingham circulating over the weekend !

 

[Blue Mist]

Think of all those 3.00pm kick offs

But we will get a stream for the aways ?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

We cannot win against such tribalism so the only answer is ‘Fuck ‘em, the sad Cunts’.