PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[jrb]

The Norwegians especially, the Rags, and the Tarquins are in absolute meltdown after the luxury tax fine news came out.

 

[domalino]

Or, why should owners who don't want to invest in their clubs get rewarded by owners who do?, who says we are talking small fines, doesn't the article also talk about sporting sanctions?, and if we are talking small fines, it's no real disincentive to overspending ....

As well as talking about sporting sanctions, the article refers to "more flexibility and a buffer zone". Let's be honest, here. United want to spend big in the summer and can't currently. So, as always, the rules have to change. There will be no grand gesture to allow more clubs to compete, with the exception of Newcastle, I imagine, if the PL doesn't want to get sued to Kingdom come.

Because we don't actually want a league which has massive financial disparity. Teams that cost £1000m playing teams that cost £60m does not produce great football. You just end up with 1 team parking 11 behind the ball, wasting time from kick off and making nasty cycnical fouls.

We're already bringing in the 70% rule, Luxury tax means clubs like Villa, Leicester, West Ham can spend outside of their means, but there's a price to it which keeps teams like Luton or Burnley competitive.

Sporting sanctions obviously have to be invovled because you've got to have a limit. It's fine someone paying a tax for spending 80% one year or 110% for 3 years, but unless you have a hard ceiling then someone is going to try and spend 500% of revenue without ever bothering to increase their turnover to make it sustainable.

 

[freshie]

Where did you get that from?

The PL has passed a series of ever tighter RTP rules over the last 18 months, it would be very surprising to hear they were rowing back on that.


You're not mixing this up with UEFA clarifying the existing rule in their competitions that was in the news last week?

 

[domalino]

I think it does too for PL owners - the downside is that it likely reinforces the split between PL and EFL.

On the face of it, I don't see why it wouldn't lend towards a fixed presence in the PL - it may be that the bigger EFL clubs (Leeds for example) will be able to displace the smaller PL clubs, but it might not be often.

IMO the way to fix that potential problem is either:

1) The EFL adopts the same measures and then the relegated PL clubs would have to cut back their costs massively or end up paying loads of money to their rivals, or

2)By eliminating parachute payments and the EFL not adopting the tax system, clubs like Leicester City this year on 116% wages to turnover would have to completely gut their Premier League quality team and get out of the Championship with a Championship side or else face a huge points deduction like they are this season.

Option 2 would mean no more Norwich, Leicester, West Brom musical chairs.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Utd fans rthink it is to benefit City, so we can get away with the charges.. I forget how many there are. But this little gem on redcafe is going to get deleted soon I reckon

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I think we have to understand one thing. It is not City who are running PL and Masters, it is United. Ratcliffe knows very well, after long discussions with Berrada that there is no chance at all that City are quilty. Therefore these changes to make it possible for United to invest in the summer transfer window. Without these changes United are up deep shit creeks when it comes to PSR.

 

[flook]

Stand strong is very positive. Definitely worth a read. Can’t make out the rest of the txt tho. Maybe it’s a montage of our league one days.

F365 have had us guilty as charged from day 1 in everything I've seen from them, I'm not clicking the link to see if that's changed here (I suspect not given the reference to league 1) but if it has then it's another strong indicator of incoming absolution

 

[domalino]

F365 have had us guilty as charged from day 1 in everything I've seen from them, I'm not clicking the link to see if that's changed here (I suspect not given the reference to league 1) but if it has then it's another strong indicator of incoming absolution

F365 have not really had an opinion on our charges.

Fans who write into F365's letters to the editor articles do.

 

[Centurions]

Not much chance - Keegan reckons 17 are in favour of some of it.

Which again is no surprise - my first thoughts (which may be wrong)
- have access to the PL cash already, and benefit
- if a club overspends, they have to pay all the other clubs, so free money!
- clubs getting promoted start with less and therefore will overspend more.
- more leeway for overspending to avoid relegation

- more leeway for overspending but does a Chelsea, fails miserably and does get relegated anyway with all of the associated debts and the club gets wound up.

Sounds sustainable to me.

 

[Asa's left peg]

What a shitshow.

 

[domalino]

- more leeway for overspending but does a Chelsea, fails miserably and does get relegated anyway with all of the associated debts and the club gets wound up.

Sounds sustainable to me.

Do you actually think Chelsea are at risk of getting wound up?