PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

I have never really understood the change that was made it never made any sense to me can you please explain

@Prestwich_Blue is too modest to mention it, but this is a blog post he wrote about it in 2018 in absolute detail:

https://boltfromtheblue.live/2018/11/18/how-uefa-shifted-the-goalposts-to-shaft-man-city/

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Do not agree Fordham was more like Barcelona pulling leavers we sold image rights for an up front large lump sum to avoid loses paid more (more tax) in exchange for no or less income in future as they where in the hands of an outside company

That was my understanding too, and I think what PrestwichBlue said.

It got a one-off payment of 25m (or so) which went into income. I think the issue was mostly because Fordham was also an ADUG company (I may have the wrong name there - certainly something to do with the owners), and would it therefore count as owner investment.

It certainly wasn't being hidden as to what was happening.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Have none of the other, what is it 4 now, clubs that have been given points deductions been charged with non-cooperation? Is it just us that have been uncooperative?

I don't however see how if it sticks, that charge can carry a sporting penalty. Do you get a sporting advantage by a lack of cooperation?

But they haven't not cooperated.

The club FFP/PSR things are easy:
Club: Here are our accounts. We lost X. We claim Y as allowances, meaning an FFP loss of Z.
PL: We'll let you have some of Y, but not all. You've overspent.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

That makes sense. The non cooperation charge is for the whole period of the investigation. But from what has been written so far, that view seems based on the club not providing accounts beyond 2018. They would argue they cooperated fully with accounts up to that point, the PL will argue they didn't, because they didn't provide all accounts asked for. That at least seems to be one theory, could be to do with the extent as much as the time period, and as you keep saying, third party information.

I recall someone saying that the PL regs allow them to demand any document they want.
It seems likely that the club would push back on demands for things that the club think were unrelated to the issues at hand.

That would theoretically be non-cooperation with the PL regs.

 

[bluemanchester]

I recall someone saying that the PL regs allow them to demand any document they want.
It seems likely that the club would push back on demands for things that the club think were unrelated to the issues at hand.

That would theoretically be non-cooperation with the PL regs.

In other words a fishing trip.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Tolm will have the **** on toast.

And I did, within three posts and then fucked him off and told him to stick to blogging.

Especially enjoyed, when he backtracked by trying to qualify what he actually meant by the Premier League NOW throwing all their resources at it, bankrolling the Independent Commission.

When it was kicked upstairs last year and has zero influence on the panel.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

@tolmie's hairdoo is the leak good, bad or indifferent news?

You didn't offer Bullshit as an option? Do people really think a claim like this isn't checked out by top journalists desperate to pass it off as their own exclusive, or covering their arses with their own desks.

And he gave it away for free on Twitter!

 

[ganganvince]

You didn't offer Bullshit as an option? Do people really think a claim like this isn't checked out by top journalists desperate to pass it off as their own exclusive, or covering their arses with their own desks.

And he gave it away for free on Twitter!

Sorry I meant the leak you referred to in your answer on twitter

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Speculation only: I still don’t really understand why we gave them nothing beyond 2018; perhaps for this reason?

Didn't we change ownership name in 2018 to Brookshaw Developments from ADUG?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Sorry I meant the leak you referred to in your answer on twitter

Nothing but positive vibes still.