PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I remember him lowered down from the stage roof tentacles on a glass chair and him singing Let's Dance?

Memory might be playing trick on me, though?

Cool as fuck.
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Sure it kicked off in support act Terrence Trent Derby. Typical City at the time lol. He shouted this is a concert not a fucking football match!
 
eyalluvitt said:
Who then moved on to the dippers in what was their first big purchase using the Coutinho money
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The Coutinho money is a football version of the HS2 budget. Started out at £100 million and in the hands of the professional liars has turned into multi billions.
 
Karl8 said:
They are…

Manchester United does have notable Catholic connections, though these are cultural and historical rather than institutional. Here’s a breakdown of the main Catholic associations with the club:

1. Irish Catholic Support Base

  • Irish immigration to Manchester in the 19th and early 20th centuries brought many Catholic families, especially to areas like Collyhurst, Miles Platting, and Harpurhey.
  • Manchester United, based in the industrial and diverse heart of the city, became popular among Irish Catholic communities.
  • This is similar to Celtic’s founding in Glasgow to serve Irish Catholic immigrants, though United did not have a religious mission

2. Catholic Players and Legends

Many of United’s greatest players were Irish Catholics or came from Catholic backgrounds:

  • George Best – Northern Irish, raised in a Protestant area (Cregagh), but had strong ties with both communities.
  • Denis Irwin – Devout Catholic from Cork, Ireland.
  • Roy Keane – Catholic from Cork; educated in Catholic schools.
  • John O’Shea, Liam Whelan (a Busby Babe), Paddy Crerand – All Catholic and from Irish backgrounds.
  • Shay Brennan – Born in Manchester to Irish parents; first post-Munich debutant.
Some of the Busby Babes (the young team tragically affected by the 1958 Munich air disaster) were Irish Catholics, particularly:
  • Liam “Billy” Whelan, who was a devout Catholic and reportedly said, “If this is the end, then I’m ready for it,” as the plane took off.

3. Sir Matt Busby’s Catholic Faith

  • Matt Busby, United’s legendary manager (1945–1969), was a devout Catholic of Lithuanian-Scottish descent.
  • He was awarded a papal knighthood (KSG) in 1972 by Pope Paul VI.
  • Busby’s values of discipline, compassion, and unity resonated with both Catholic and working-class traditions.

4. Fan Culture and Identity

  • Some Catholic fans, especially of Irish descent, saw United as “their club” in contrast to Manchester City, who drew more from traditional English Protestant neighborhoods — though this was more subtle and localized, never an overt sectarian rivalry like Celtic vs Rangers.
  • In the 1960s–1980s, it wasn’t uncommon for United to have supporters clubs in Catholic parishes, especially in parts of Ireland, Northern England, and Scotland.
⚖️ Conclusion


While Manchester United has never been officially or institutionally a Catholic club, it has strong historical ties to Catholic communities, particularly through:

  • Its Irish supporters and players.
  • The faith of influential figures like Sir Matt Busby.
  • Its appeal to working-class Catholic populations in Manchester and Ireland.
Hope this helps clarify and demonstrate that United ARE historically a somewhat catholic club..
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Ironic considering they have a literal devil as their symbol
 
Karl8 said:
They are…

Manchester United does have notable Catholic connections, though these are cultural and historical rather than institutional. Here’s a breakdown of the main Catholic associations with the club:

1. Irish Catholic Support Base

  • Irish immigration to Manchester in the 19th and early 20th centuries brought many Catholic families, especially to areas like Collyhurst, Miles Platting, and Harpurhey.
  • Manchester United, based in the industrial and diverse heart of the city, became popular among Irish Catholic communities.
  • This is similar to Celtic’s founding in Glasgow to serve Irish Catholic immigrants, though United did not have a religious mission

2. Catholic Players and Legends

Many of United’s greatest players were Irish Catholics or came from Catholic backgrounds:

  • George Best – Northern Irish, raised in a Protestant area (Cregagh), but had strong ties with both communities.
  • Denis Irwin – Devout Catholic from Cork, Ireland.
  • Roy Keane – Catholic from Cork; educated in Catholic schools.
  • John O’Shea, Liam Whelan (a Busby Babe), Paddy Crerand – All Catholic and from Irish backgrounds.
  • Shay Brennan – Born in Manchester to Irish parents; first post-Munich debutant.
Some of the Busby Babes (the young team tragically affected by the 1958 Munich air disaster) were Irish Catholics, particularly:
  • Liam “Billy” Whelan, who was a devout Catholic and reportedly said, “If this is the end, then I’m ready for it,” as the plane took off.

3. Sir Matt Busby’s Catholic Faith

  • Matt Busby, United’s legendary manager (1945–1969), was a devout Catholic of Lithuanian-Scottish descent.
  • He was awarded a papal knighthood (KSG) in 1972 by Pope Paul VI.
  • Busby’s values of discipline, compassion, and unity resonated with both Catholic and working-class traditions.

4. Fan Culture and Identity

  • Some Catholic fans, especially of Irish descent, saw United as “their club” in contrast to Manchester City, who drew more from traditional English Protestant neighborhoods — though this was more subtle and localized, never an overt sectarian rivalry like Celtic vs Rangers.
  • In the 1960s–1980s, it wasn’t uncommon for United to have supporters clubs in Catholic parishes, especially in parts of Ireland, Northern England, and Scotland.
⚖️ Conclusion


While Manchester United has never been officially or institutionally a Catholic club, it has strong historical ties to Catholic communities, particularly through:

  • Its Irish supporters and players.
  • The faith of influential figures like Sir Matt Busby.
  • Its appeal to working-class Catholic populations in Manchester and Ireland.
Hope this helps clarify and demonstrate that United ARE historically a somewhat catholic club..
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As someone who was born and bred in Collyhurst in the 60's, what a load of fuckin bollocks
 
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