PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Bluewonder]

Have we got a big game this weekend:

So far today sports media have reported:
Peps Leaving according to that united dickhead on "Football Terrace"
Keith Wyness and "Football Insider" have run with the bullshit promoted by the Swedish Rumble ****
Talk Shit have plenty of red scousers on each taking turns calling City "Cheats"

I suspect a bit of green eyed monster is doing the rounds. Sad Twats

Here's a thought: stop listening to and reading complete and utter shite.

It's like reading OK! magazine then complaining it isn't intellectually stimulating.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Talk Shite (Iknow, I know, I shouldn't) have just run a Scouse Kloppo love in, inviting comments from LFC fans on weather Kloppo is a PL legend or not.

Every bonehead who came on accused City of cheating, one stated, "City broke UEFA FFP 3 times" apparently which were the reasons Klopp only won 1 title.

Can they rely on proxys phoning in making statements indemnifying them from slanderous statements?

As always, the dates that the charges relate to are omitted.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Have we got a big game this weekend:

So far today sports media have reported:
Peps Leaving according to that united dickhead on "Football Terrace"
Keith Wyness and "Football Insider" have run with the bullshit promoted by the Swedish Rumble ****
Talk Shit have plenty of red scousers on each taking turns calling City "Cheats"

I suspect a bit of green eyed monster is doing the rounds. Sad Twats

It has been lovely. I have such a great time on twitter winding those fans up. They are soooo angry. They will remember these days of City domination for decades, they just cannot get it out of their heads.

Winning stuff has been brilliant. But seeing them lose their cosy little closed-shop cartel of success, seeing their world turned upside down has been a big fat cherry on top of the whole thing.

 

[bluekeith]

The 115 orchestra have been in fine voice this week I see

 

[WRicko]

Thank you for an excellent summary. On Fordham, it should be noted that we negotiated with HMRC and were effectively cleared with no extra tax being levied. About six clubs were given tax levies, I am not sure whether those cases are still being argued about or whether they have paid the extra tax. None of those clubs have been charged by the PL.

That missed tax could have affect there FFP and could possibly be argued the accounts where in accurate which is some of our charges so they should be gone after even if it did not affect the FFP position given that most clubs are running close to the line it seems highly likely they would have been pushed over on FFP if they had had to pay the original higher taxes

 

[KS55]

Not a legal expert obviously, but surely that's contentious too?
City have submitted all the financial documents/records they are required to by the PL... if the PL are now saying there's something wrong, then it's up to them to prove it, I just don't see how City are legally required to supply anything more than they have?!

It’s the PL rules. ”You are required to provide evidence against yourself. If you have done nothing wrong, make something incriminating up.”
Ok, I have exaggerated a little.

 

[Ballosteve]

I am a great believer in what will be will be,It did use to affect me all this bolloxs that wankstains post and say about the club I love and have done for 44 yrs but now I've the skin of a rhino and I just laugh at the fuckers and see how bitter and how gutted they are,we will prevail in the end of this I have no doubt and I will just smile at the fuckers as sometimes you don't need words to say I told you so..up the blues,keep believing,keep smiling and keep loving.....

 

[Dubai Blue]

2019 PL investigation

• Investigation was opened concurrently with UEFA investigation.
• Was delayed firstly by UEFA investigation/ charges and CAS then by some procedural complaints from City on cooperation (countered by PL) and confidentiality (backed by PL).
• Complaints were legitimate but ultimately rejected.
• Allegations referred to disciplinary panel chairman in February 2023.
• Alleged rule breaches were:
• Filing incorrect accounts, presenting incorrect financial information to the PL, acting in bad faith, 50 alleged breaches.
• Understating manager remuneration, 8 alleged breaches.
• Understating player remuneration, 12 alleged breaches.
• UEFA FFP and licensing, 5 alleged breaches.
• PL FFP, 6 alleged breaches.
• Non-cooperation, 30 alleged breaches.
• Total 111 alleged breaches (plus 4 for when rule changes mid-season led to two rule breaches multiple times in a season).

This and the subsequent part of your post are what media commentators and fans of other clubs need to understand properly before spouting off. Together, they've created a narrative that there's no smoke without fire — "If the PL have brought 115 separate charges, City must surely be guilty of at least some of them."

But, as the rest of your post goes on to say, these aren't really separate charges; they're all interlinked. And once one gets thrown out, the rest start to tumble as they're reliant on the others being proven. Equally, if found guilty, it's likely to be on almost all, if not all, the charges. It's an all or nothing case.

If and when we're cleared, the media need to properly explain this to everyone who hasn't bothered reading beyond the headlines for the last 2 years. I won't be holding my breath though!

 

[robbieh]

The funny thing is some supporters of other clubs seem to think the PL is run by people who actually know what they're doing.

You only need to look at the way the country has been governed the last 10 years to realise that there are plenty of idiots in high places.

Luckily Khaldoun is not one of them.

 

[Ducado]

The BBC published a big story earlier in the week that assumed City had cheated and were awaiting punishment.

It was amended fairly quickly - but that and Lance Armstrong broadcast on Talksport does not indicate the cheating narrative has stopped to me.

I was out on site this morning I thought for my sins I would listen to Talksport, Jordon who had been one of the leading critics of City and had said some very legally close to the bone before, his tone was remarkably different, I have not head the Lance Armstrong reference I have read it on Rag Forums

It's a valid topic for discussion for the media they won't shut up about it because it generates clicks which generate money for them, but there are very few assumptions of guilt in fact that really has changed

From my observations it would appear the groundwork is being done in order to exonerate the club (or minimise things) we are not party to all the ins and outs but I can see when groups are on monoverse.

How do you change the narrative? First you stop any reference to presumed guilt, and there was a lot of that prior to a few weeks ago, then you brief chosen people in the media )and people that matter in the media)as to what the charges are really about i.e stuff that allegedly happened many years ago, I am quite confident that this matter will be closed shortly and the club will come out of it very strongly, although I think some chairment (particularly of a North London club we played recently) will be sleeping with one eye open for many years